Remix advice?

[terminal3]

Originally Posted by EdRyan

I meant this

iZotope, Inc - Audio Processing Technology and Plug-Ins for Pro Tools, VST, MAS, Audio Unit, and DirectX

Genius piece of kit. Will set you back around £200, but it's probably the best at what it does. It uses a newer sample window analysis method that is way more accurate then what you get in the box with Logic, Cubase, Protools etc..

+1 for that. For those who care (probably not you, Ed!) it's available to Pro Tools as a plug-in called X-Form (marketed by Digidesign, even though the algo/controls are identical) and it's amazing.

Also, the new Elastic Audio feature in Pro Tools 7.4 uses that algorithm as well for it's "offline" mode, no extra plug-in purchase required, so if you use PT for remixing you automatically get the Radius/X-Form 'mode' included.

Only Pitch n' Time is on that level of goodness... and it's good to have both if you can afford them because different types of program material respond differently to different algorithms.*

* How many times can YOU use "different" in a sentence?

[sureno]

Originally Posted by sphelan

Modz1, given your experience and that of many others here on the forums, how about we kick start an online DV Forums Remix Workshop for those of us who have little or no experience?

• A tune could be chosen
• A basic list of software (commercial and/or free) could be recommended
• A style could be suggested
• Some production techniques could be suggested
• Participants could share their remixes with each other
• Participants could get feed back on their progress

Wouldn't it be nice some day if a DV Forums member was to gain recognition or be chosen as the winner in a remix competition?

+1 great idea, not just a pretty face.lol but on a serious note, those that really do well could maybe get advice on how to take it further i.e how to try and get it released

[sphelan]

Originally Posted by modz1

Hi Sphelan
Great suggestion! I'm happy to get involved and make that work for the members..
Let me give it some detailed thought and will come back to you soon...

Looking forward to that Modz1

[sphelan]

Originally Posted by sureno

+1 great idea, not just a pretty face.lol but on a serious note, those that really do well could maybe get advice on how to take it further i.e how to try and get it released

I'm still at the stage of how to do it, not to mind get it released
But it is good to think ahead...someday I want to have something I can release!

[sureno]

Originally Posted by sphelan

I'm still at the stage of how to do it, not to mind get it released
But it is good to think ahead...someday I want to have something I can release!

always attack things with a positive outlook, you could read the tutorial and make something brilliant. it happened to my little cousin and because he was new to the whole thing he lost out and didn't make a penny. what he made was used by Mtv base for one of there adverts many years ago

[sphelan]

Originally Posted by sureno

always attack things with a positive outlook, you could read the tutorial and make something brilliant. it happened to my little cousin and because he was new to the whole thing he lost out and didn't make a penny. what he made was used by Mtv base for one of there adverts many years ago

No, don't get the wrong idea, I am positive about it. Realistic also. I know I have a lot to learn but everyday brings something new and I'm on it! I'm learning the world from you guys. Thanks to all!

[sphelan]

The following bmp guide is given at Electronic dance music - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

• 60–90 bpm — Hip hop,Electrofunk, and Dub
• 90–120 bpm — Faster Hip Hop and Big Beats/"Trip hop"
• 120–135 bpm — House
• 135–155 bpm — Techno and Trance
• 155–180 bpm — Drum'n'bass / Jungle
• 180+ bpm — Hardcore techno, Gabber and beyond

Do you seasoned producers agree with this?

Also, how do you go about getting the bmp of a track? I do it more or less by trial and error. I saw a formula somewhere on the forums but can't seem to find it. Do people use software or maths to find the correct tempo of a recorded track?

[waxxy]

alot of daws now come with beat detectors of some kind..but if you want a quick and accurate tempo detector heres one of the best ones out there and its free too ..

MixMeister DJ Mixing Software

simply install it then drag the file you want too find out its tempo too the window give it a few seconds to anylize it then it tells you the tempo..its excellent and very fast ..hope this helps you out

[sphelan]

Originally Posted by waxxy

alot of daws now come with beat detectors of some kind..but if you want a quick and accurate tempo detector heres one of the best ones out there and its free too ..

MixMeister DJ Mixing Software

simply install it then drag the file you want too find out its tempo too the window give it a few seconds to anylize it then it tells you the tempo..its excellent and very fast ..hope this helps you out

Thankx waxxy.

I don't suppose there is anything similar to tell you the key and chords of a track too!!! LOL

[waxxy]

if you want too know those as well you might as well do a search for a midi file of the song you want to do ..theres millions of free midi files out there on the net you just have too do a good search..or try torrent sites theres lots on there but i cant post links for them on here.

try these which ive just found..
Free MIDI Zone - MIDI files

just download the midi file import it into your daw then click on the parts too see what key there in what chord structure it follows weres the chorus,break,verse,middle 8.

if your still having trouble just do what norman cook does goto your local carboot find a obscure record sample the crap out of it add a break beat and bobs your uncle one bonafidi remix done in 10 minutes

[sphelan]

Originally Posted by modz1

Hi Sphelan
Great suggestion! I'm happy to get involved and make that work for the members..
Let me give it some detailed thought and will come back to you soon...

Wow...this is going to be BIG...I can feel it...how many days have you guys been planning already? Any developments to report? It's not that I'm impatient...but I'd like to keep the ball rolling!

[modz1]

Hang tight fella.. I'm on it

[sphelan]

Originally Posted by modz1

Hang tight fella.. I'm on it

I never doubted the almighty Modz1

[sureno]

Originally Posted by sphelan

Wow...this is going to be BIG...I can feel it...how many days have you guys been planning already? Any developments to report? It's not that I'm impatient...but I'd like to keep the ball rolling!

yeah i need all the help i can get and having production advice on top of that will be a bonus

[sphelan]

Originally Posted by waxxy

alot of daws now come with beat detectors of some kind..but if you want a quick and accurate tempo detector heres one of the best ones out there and its free too ..

MixMeister DJ Mixing Software

simply install it then drag the file you want too find out its tempo too the window give it a few seconds to anylize it then it tells you the tempo..its excellent and very fast ..hope this helps you out

I presume if something like 116.98 bpm comes out of mixmeiseter, then it's just a question of rounding up to 117? Are fractions of a beat to be taken into account?