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Old 2nd May 2010 , 08:20 AM
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Default Recording Electric Guitar using mic'd amp or software?

This is something i'm pondering. I'm pretty sure the advice i have had on here before was to record using an amp and micing it up but i'm wondering if anyone actually records by plugging straight in and using software for amp modelling and effects and what sort of results you get? I've been looking at more and more plug-in's now and there is a whole world of stuff out there, it's great. I'm undecided how i want to record electric Guitar though. I've been looking at loads of different Guitar plug-ins, line 6 pod farm etc and they all look pretty good but i'm thinking is there any point in buying any if the best way to go is a mic'd amp? So, i'm looking for a bit of Guidance. If software would give me good realistic results, i would like to go that way as it's so much more practical, but if an mic'd amp is what's considered best then i'll probably go that way. I used to sometimes record electric Guitar by plugging straight in when i used to use a BOSSBR1180 Multitrack recorder years ago and it had modelling effects, but to be honest it was pretty bad. It didn't sound natural and the results were poor. I don't want to make that same mistake with software although i'm assuming that they're alot more realistic that the COSM modelling i had in that miltitrack recorder years ago.

Opinions/advice would be great and maybe i can make an informed choice.

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Both have their advantages and disadvantages. When it comes to ease of use and recallability plugins win hands down. When it comes to the quality of sound, IMO, there's no comparison whatsoever. If you use plugins you lose the fullness and 3d effect you get when you mic an amp. The tone can sound pretty reasonable when only that track is playing but the quality of the sound is pretty two dimensional. When stacked as part of a song they leave the overall package sounding a bit limp and lifeless (and believe me I have wanted to like these things). Where they can work is for solos where you are looking for something to cut through the mix. As ever, YMMV.

Anyways, am off to record some distorted guitars from hell...
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Cheers Trev. I think i may well buy some Guitar software aswell as recording using mic'd amp. I've just discovered a light version of Native instruments Guitar rig comes with my PC so i'll try that out and see how it sounds. Just wondering if anyone uses software regularly and could maybe post a sample? That would be great.
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If you check "I Love It When You Call" (cover of The Feeling's track) on this page: http://drstudio.da-media.co.uk/peerreview/ you'll hear guitar parts recorded through the NI Combo amp plugins. As per normal, I recorded dry DI and mic'd amp parts simultaneously and in this instance we needed a really different amp tone for the final mix, so we fed the dry DI signal through an amp sim to replace the original mic'd amp track.
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If you check "I Love It When You Call" (cover of The Feeling's track) on this page: http://drstudio.da-media.co.uk/peerreview/ you'll hear guitar parts recorded through the NI Combo amp plugins. As per normal, I recorded dry DI and mic'd amp parts simultaneously and in this instance we needed a really different amp tone for the final mix, so we fed the dry DI signal through an amp sim to replace the original mic'd amp track.
Sounds pretty good i think. I hate that song, but the Guitars sound fine to me. So that is just a dry DI signal that has been recorded and later being run through Guitar amp modeling software? Is it always better to record a dry signal with absolutely no effects and then add the what effects you want later? I was under the impression that that was the best course of action with the likes of reverb and delay but does the same apply with distortion, chorus etc? I like the idea of recording both mic'd amp and direct to the mixer simultaneously and then using what sounds best for that track or even both together.
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I tend to record the dry DI signal purely as a safety precaution... I am always after getting the right sound from miking the amp, but just in case, I have a dry DI signal I can run though a plugin or reamp by sending back to a real guitar amp and record it with a microphone to a new track.
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I tend to record the dry DI signal purely as a safety precaution... I am always after getting the right sound from miking the amp, but just in case, I have a dry DI signal I can run though a plugin or reamp by sending back to a real guitar amp and record it with a microphone to a new track.
Yeah, i get what you mean. I think i'll experiment with both methods. The KOMPLETE 6 software you suggested seems to have a good variety, that's most likely what i will save for in due course. I'll get to grips with the included software for the time being.
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ive been using both live and software amps in logic and gtr rig, ampeg bass i like its one of the good bass software amp packages and does what it says on the tin , ive always had a problem recording decent bass and this is a good solution to my woes , nothing quite sounds like a warm valve amp though.




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