Bussing Plugins in Pro Tools. Please Help!

Tim · #1 (**permalink**) 22nd July 2009 , 01:48 PM

I am stuck on something and would really appreciate any help. It relates to bussing plugin effects.

For example:

I understand that to do a simple bus you could set the send on the original track to bus 1 & 2 and the input on the Aux track to Bus 1 & 2.

However, if I want to use a plugin on more than one track but different effects from the same plugin on each track how would I go about it?

For example if I was using Guitar Rig chorus on Track 1 and Guitar Rig distortion on Track 2 and wanted to buss - I assume I cannot buss them to the same auxillary track as there would be the same effect on both tracks.

I'm sure this has a simple answer but it's one of those silly things and I'm stuck

tehlord · #2 (**permalink**) 22nd July 2009 , 02:01 PM

Never used Pro Tools but couldn't you load up a second instance of GR to get the second effect? Is there such a thing as an effects track in Pro Tools that you can set up for FX?

terminal3 · #3 (**permalink**) 22nd July 2009 , 02:03 PM

Yes, you would need to do two seperate aux tracks/bus paths with two instances of the plug-in in question if the settings were to be different.

sphelan · #4 (**permalink**) 22nd July 2009 , 02:05 PM

I haven't got into PT yet as I'm currently getting to know Logic. However, from what I understand, it's not possible to do what you want like you are saying. You would have to instantiate two instances of GR, as tehlord has said, one on each aux.

sphelan · #5 (**permalink**) 22nd July 2009 , 02:06 PM

T3, I see we were both replying at the same time!

Tim · #6 (**permalink**) 22nd July 2009 , 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by terminal3

Yes, you would need to do two seperate aux tracks/bus paths with two instances of the plug-in in question if the settings were to be different.

I see. Well, this is fine as long as doing this is easier on the memory/CP usage than just adding the plugin on each track.

Thanks for the speedy reply guys. Wasn't expecting that!

tehlord · #7 (**permalink**) 22nd July 2009 , 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim

I see. Well, this is fine as long as doing this is easier on the memory/CP usage than just adding the plugin on each track.

Thanks for the speedy reply guys. Wasn't expecting that!

I wouldn't imagine it would make much difference to your CPU usage as either way you'll have 2 VSTs running.

Unless the Chorus in GR is extra special there are possibly VSTs out there that will use less CPU though? I've heard GR is quite CPU intensive but then again I've never used it.

Tim · #8 (**permalink**) 22nd July 2009 , 02:34 PM

Quite possibly. I'll be using a lot of GR and other plugins on other tracks which is why I was looking into bussing in the first place.

Earlier tests I did said I was running out of memory and my set up has more than enough so I was told the best thing is to bus my plugins.

I have say Addictive Drums for a beat, 2, 3 or 4 guitars, synths etc....

tehlord · #9 (**permalink**) 22nd July 2009 , 03:15 PM

Well bussing a reverb makes sense as each track can take as much as it needs from basically the same reverb VST. Wont work if you want a plate on drums and a hall on vocals though.

I'm guessing here but running out of memory probably has more to do with the amount of audio loaded into a project than the VSTs used.

How much memory do you have installed? What are your computer specs?

Tim · #10 (**permalink**) 29th July 2009 , 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tehlord

I'm guessing here but running out of memory probably has more to do with the amount of audio loaded into a project than the VSTs used.

I would only normally have 2 or 3 guitar/bass tracks (using Gr), Drums (Addictive Drums) then some vocals as a basic set up.

TrevCircleStudios · #11 (**permalink**) 30th July 2009 , 02:32 AM

What are your computer specs and how have you got it set up? I'll need a bit more info to help you here.

Tim · #12 (**permalink**) 9th August 2009 , 01:33 PM

Finding out the specs on my Mac isn't as easy as I thought. I'll be back!

sphelan · #13 (**permalink**) 9th August 2009 , 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim

Finding out the specs on my Mac isn't as easy as I thought. I'll be back!

Click on the Apple on the top right and go to About This Mac.

Tim · #14 (**permalink**) 12th August 2009 , 10:59 PM

Here are the specs:

2x2 Ghz Dual Core Intel Xeon
Memory: 3GB 667 Mhz
DDR2 FB-DIMM
V 10.4.11

Also using external Hard Drive for all session storage.

Tim · #15 (**permalink**) 27th August 2009 , 11:46 AM

Is that enough info Trev?

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tehlord Tarnce Monkey Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 697	Well bussing a reverb makes sense as each track can take as much as it needs from basically the same reverb VST. Wont work if you want a plate on drums and a hall on vocals though. I'm guessing here but running out of memory probably has more to do with the amount of audio loaded into a project than the VSTs used. How much memory do you have installed? What are your computer specs?
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