Hardware Starter package's

[sphelan]

Originally Posted by sureno

healthy may be not, more like harmless imo

Well like you say we could be blowing it on drink, drugs, or sex...not much rock n roll!

I don't spend much but when I spend I spend big. My mrs has got used to me forking out the likes of €1200 on a bass for example when what we really need is an extra room in the appartment! But hey...what's more important, right?

[sureno]

Originally Posted by sphelan

Well like you say we could be blowing it on drink, drugs, or sex...not much rock n roll!

I don't spend much but when I spend I spend big. My mrs has got used to me forking out the likes of €1200 on a bass for example when what we really need is an extra room in the appartment! But hey...what's more important, right?

LMAO, exactly. wow started feeling alienated there

[sphelan]

Originally Posted by sureno

LMAO, exactly. wow started feeling alienated there

Nah...every now and then we all need the little sphelan voice within us to question and make us thing about our next move!

[FrankGIK]

Yeah...look, the HEDD is a great investment and it'll definitely play nice with the SV, but T3 is waving a viable caution flag. Sure you wouldn't rather start off with something like an RNC/RNLA combo? You can use either of those on vocals, drums, bass, or the mix buss...I do it all the time. Then get a DBX 160 or two for vocals and bass...throw in an ART Pro VLA and a rack to put 'em in and you have something like what I'm looking at to my left right now. It's pretty killer. Sure, I'd love a HEDD but I don't *need* it. Maybe throw in a hardware reverb like a Yamaha Rev5, a Kurzweil Rumour or a Lexicon PC80 and things really start to get interesting. Upgrade your converters...love my SSL XLogic Alpha Link converters...24 channels for $3,000 or so plus the RME interface card ($600) or so.

Just some other options to consider..

[TrevCircleStudios]

I'm with T3 and Frank dude. While the HEDD is awesome other things will make a bigger difference. Adding a little tape and tube to your mix bus but the difference is really minute when compared to what , say and RNLA will do for you. You could pick up an RNLA and a decent enough EQ for much less. Heck if you really want to spend that kind of money on your bus get yourself an API 2500 or a dramastic obsidian and a good EQ. The difference these will make to you will be eyepopping compared to the subtlety of the HEDD.

Originally Posted by terminal3

If I were you, I would first buy an RNC or an RNLA. Mess around with it for a while, learn how it works, see what sort of colour it can add on the 2-buss, and THEN go out and drop £3k on something like a HEDD if you still think you want/need it.

You still won't get rid of the RNC - it's an awesome little box (I still can't believe I don't own one yet, came so close to pulling the trigger earlier this year FINALLY and I think I bought a guitar instead) - but it would be a great starting point at a fraction of the price of something stoopid-high-end.

[Khazul]

Just a thought - if your going to be bouncing out to external hardware - what audio interface are you using?

Just might make sense to ensure that isnt going to be negating any benefits of good external processing.

[sureno]

WOW, well thanks for ALL the input guys, after reading each post i think well i know i will go for the RNLA and Khazul sent me an audio clip a/b'ing the spl vitalizer i will be getting one of these in addition. Frank i will stay away from reverb and such effects as im mainly looking for overall processers on my 2 bus mix. so having chosen 2 units il get to know these and see how they work for me, i think with the money i will save from not getting the HEDD i will most definately put towards acoustic treatment sooner.

again guys thanks for all the great feedback

[sureno]

Originally Posted by Khazul

Just a thought - if your going to be bouncing out to external hardware - what audio interface are you using?

Just might make sense to ensure that isnt going to be negating any benefits of good external processing.

i will be using my 003 as i use Pro Tools more and more for mixing

[sphelan]

This is a great thread...I'm watching from the sidelines but getting great ideas.

Can I ask...don't both the RNC and the RNLA do the same thing or am I missing something? Is the combination of the two to have more options?

[FrankGIK]

Originally Posted by sphelan

This is a great thread...I'm watching from the sidelines but getting great ideas.

Can I ask...don't both the RNC and the RNLA do the same thing or am I missing something? Is the combination of the two to have more options?

The RNC and RNLA are completely different animals...they have a totally different sound. The RNC is very transparent while the RNLA is much more aggressive-sounding. You would definitely have no overlap between those two.

Don't forget the humble DBX 160...it's the best compressor I know of under $300 for vocals. To do better you'd spent 8 times.

Frank

[sureno]

will the fact that i produce "electronic crap" as Trev ever so nicely puts it effect the recommendations from you guys as i take it most of you mix rock type tracks? aggressive sounds good

[FrankGIK]

Originally Posted by sureno

will the fact that i produce "electronic crap" as Trev ever so nicely puts it effect the recommendations from you guys as i take it most of you mix rock type tracks? aggressive sounds good

Mostly Indie and Metal. Though the indie Christian market is pretty happening right now...

Frank

[sureno]

Originally Posted by FrankGIK

Mostly Indie and Metal. Though the indie Christian market is pretty happening right now...

Frank

but do you think what you deem good for metal and indie will also prove to have the same effect on electronic music? or is a good unit a good unit for any genre?

[FrankGIK]

Originally Posted by sureno

but do you think what you deem good for metal and indie will also prove to have the same effect on electronic music? or is a good unit a good unit for any genre?

Ah...both of these will work both for anything. They're both great generalist compressors.

Frank

[sureno]

Originally Posted by FrankGIK

Ah...both of these will work both for anything. They're both great generalist compressors.

Frank

great stuff i will be getting the RNLA and SPL vitalizer mkII-T