worst producer

[waxxy]

who else thinks timberland is a crap producer?

i think hes over rated,cant sing,cant rap,his lyrics dont mean anything,hes lazy hes used the same sounds on every one of the tracks hes made in the last 2 years even the madonna one sounds like his new one elevator .

but yet the justin timberlakes of this world worship him like hes god,when in fact hes the new pete waterman.

his first few songs years ago were well done slickly produced but i think hes scared too change his sounds and is in such a rush too earn as much bling as he can before people realize how crap he is.

theres underground stuff being made in the uk now which blows the american crap out the water but idiots at radio 1 and other so called dance radio stations wont play it because they dont feel its popular.the reason its not popular is because no ones getting a chance too hear it.the only place too hear it is pirate radio stations but theres not many around now because of the new terrorist laws the police can say there promting terrorist ideals and the guys running the stations can get sent too prison for nothing.its crazy that you can beat someone up in the street and just get a warning but if you play music you can get a few years in jail..crazy

[StratmanNick]

hey Waxxy....this Naming & Shaming is dangerous territory

don't you know record producers have Hit Men ??

Seriously, its a good idea for a thread but its made to stop and ponder. Its easy coming up with yer favourite producers but worst....?

Excuse me while I have a think.

[modz1]

Hi Waxxy
Firstly, if I may correct your spelling..it's 'Timbaland'..

Well, I've gotta say I think the word 'crap' really doesn't apply to this currently in vogue producer. Hey, I'm no fan of the 'I get half a mill, you get a coupla grand' attitude he and other genre specific artists have within the Rap/R&B field, but, as you rightly stated, some of his earlier work, especially with the [sadly lost] Aaliyah, and Missy Elliot in the late 90's, illustrates that he's paid his dues and entered the arena with innovative production sensibilities from the word 'go'.

As producers develop their craft and 'signature' sound, that then becomes a safe 'buy in' brand for the listener, plus, you can subsequently tell a 'Timbaland' production pretty much after the first few bars of a song. What he no doubt will do, as lot's of others 'bite' his style following him, is to go through a radical change and/or progression when he personally feels the need to 'move on' or 're-invent'. I don't think he's being lazy, just churning the same stuff out, but using key elements and sounds that identify him and his work which may give that impression to some.

I've read the SoS magazine article this month on his engineer (Demo Castellon), which is very interesting, though signifies that Timbaland relies on a fair few people to help get his sound (and that must 'cost'!), but it occurs to me that equal, if not more respect should be given to the countless guys out there who write, programme, record, arrange, mix and master their tracks as a sole individual, and get a result close to, and even exceeding, the 'Timbaland' sound. It's a pity that more props can't justifiably be given in cases like this.

But hey, he's the 'man' right now, though it's guaranteed there will be someone working now, who in five years from or so will, like Timbaland, be earning the massive bucks and moving from underground respectability, to mainstream scrutiny.

Peace...

[Robcore!]

He gets more recognition than he deserves imo. People aspire to be like him - but he uses an engineer, he's been known to rip off tracks, and he just shoves his name on everything. Timbaland ft. One Republic? Hahah...One Republic with Timbaland extra production credits on the back of the CD more like.
I've got very little respect for the guy, mostly for crediting himself excessively. Sure, he gets good results, he just bastardizes everything in the process.

[waxxy]

sorry for the bad spelling i was trying too type but had my baby on my knee and he was playing with the drum pads on my akai mpd24 and moving the faders while he played on my mixer ..

i bet he will be the next big thing in 20 years lol.

its amazing hes only 1 but he knows how too adjust levels on the mixer so he gets it booming in the studio ,he also knows how too turn on the equipment .hes always walking into the studio powering stuff up he then climbs into my chair and copys what i do

i was gonna sell some off my old stuff but im hoping too build him a little studio in his bedroom in a few years so he can learn and play in his room instead off mine.ive already boxed away a old behringer desk/behringer effects/yamaha fb01/yamaha sy22/korg ms20/juno 60.i mainly use plug ins now but i think its important he knows how too program on a old analog synth before he programs on a vsti.i used to get a bigger buzz programming the juno 60 than i ever have with any plug in but its his time too learn now so im giving it too him also if he doesnt like it he could always sell it in a few years and still get a few hundred pounds for it

[tom]

Haha the new Tony Royster?

[krykos]

Timbaland deserves some credit in my opinion for producing the only Bjork song I've ever liked.

[Jeremy Lumsden]

Originally Posted by krykos

Timbaland deserves some credit in my opinion for producing the only Bjork song I've ever liked.

that's hilarious...

[Definity]

i understand what you are saying and to me his drums do have a signiture sound that i can tell in a instant but i also agree some of his songs are terrible but some i also like such as throw it on me, i did also prefer him back in the day when aayliah was about and missy early stuff but now it has become to samey sounding for my liking but at the end of the day it works and gets him sales so i cant relly complain

[DrumKing]

Timbaland's a good producer IMO - he knows what he's talking about particularly when it comes to producing the actual beat of a song (I've watched some vids of him in the studio)

ok, i would rather work with The Neptunes but timbalands been in the game for a quite a while and does deserve respect. he may get a bit too much recognition but hey, what can u do.

[strum]

haha.

All I know is that Pete Waterman loves steam trains.
It would be great if Timbaland turned out to have a passion for Fred Dibnah.

[terminal3]

two words: scott storch

Washington Times - Self-produced tragedy

[leeg]

Just wanted to pick up on a point made in this thread regarding "One Republic". From what I've heard, they'd been around for a while, but didn't actually get anywhere and were dropped by their record company. Ryan Tedder (the lead singer) is already an established songwriter and producer - so for someone with his talent and back catalogue to be dropped really sucks for a start.

Now Timbaland signed One Republic to his label and re-worked "Apologize" with his typical signature sound and this single catapulted this already talented band onto the worldwide stage and they now reap the rewards releasing singles that have no Timbaland influence.

I think credit where it's due and Timbaland has been around for nearly twenty years - wouldn't we all want some of that fame and fortune to happen to us? Likely hood is ...hmmm?

On a personal note - I actually prefer the stuff Timbaland works on with other artists as their producer - rather than the stuff he churns out for himself. To me - that reads that he's more of a catalyst in the production of songs rather than the be all and end all. That's just my humble opinion though.

[DjRo]

Hello,

Timbo is an amazing producer regardless. If you look at his discography you will see! Has worked with so many people from duran duran to 50 cent. You cant base his skills on his one album. Look at all his traks and you will see. I respect him as a producer and a person....i mean he making more millions then any of us ???? so he must be doing summin rite...


DjRo

[mrfracas]

Originally Posted by modz1

I've read the SoS magazine article this month on his engineer (Demo Castellon), which is very interesting, though signifies that Timbaland relies on a fair few people to help get his sound (and that must 'cost'!), but it occurs to me that equal, if not more respect should be given to the countless guys out there who write, programme, record, arrange, mix and master their tracks as a sole individual, and get a result close to, and even exceeding, the 'Timbaland' sound. It's a pity that more props can't justifiably be given in cases like this.

You've hit the nail on the head there, Modz1. I was reading another Timbaland related interview, with trusted engineer, Marcella Araica (SOS Vol. 23, Issue 4: Feb 2008), and the techniques and practices she applies to Timbaland's work have made me think less of him and his status, and more about the people surrounding him who are giving his work the backbone that makes it sound well executed. I suppose that's the quality you get if you have the money to spend on the engineers. It'd just be nice if Timbaland's fans could recognise the effort that unpromoted engineers go through to turn his demos into fully-fledged masters!

I'm not a Timbaland fan (or even a modern R&B fan, to be honest), but I do believe his music is well engineered!