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Old 6th January 2010 , 10:37 PM
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Here's a cool article on the matter:

http://tri-sysdesigns.com/Pages/Arti...ringAudio.html
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You're looking for RMS (average) levels around -18dBFS...that's -18 in the digital meters in Cubase. Of course, RMS levels will be higher for non-dynamic material like a hard-charging electric guitar rhythm line...that's going to eat up a lot more head room on the mix buss than a snare track that peaks at -6dB, which will have much lower RMS levels.

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Oh Crap. I've been recording recently and been referring to the meters in the mixer mostly when tracking. I'll need to check that later on.
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Oh Crap. I've been recording recently and been referring to the meters in the mixer mostly when tracking. I'll need to check that later on.
What were you shooting for as far as levels on the console?

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There is a sticky related to this but I am not overfond of stickies because, like FAQ's, Nobody FRThem!....Then I often read/think of an alternative way of explaining something, so...

Even the most noob of noobs will have seen a small mixer. The typical spec' for the output of such might be "+4dBu at 0VU" the maximum output for a Bellringer grade might be +20dBu (~7Vrms) a better device +23dBu and a topflight jobbie (as owned perhaps by the jsty&u Trev!) +26dBu about 15V rms!

Now, you would not DREAM of operating a mixer anywhere near those maxima! So don't do it in software! 0dBFS is all she wrote it is roughly equivalent to the top of the headroom of a mixer and therefore you need to be 20dB or so below it.

Case in point, (avert your eyes Trev') I dug out and hooked up a Berry UCA202 AI to do some test for a guy on another forum. 16bit only and when NEG twenty! Was alight on the mixer the guitar signal was close to -6dBFS, you can never push one hotter than that and in fact you must regard -20vu as top end and have it lit only on peaks. Of course better 16 bit converters will be better than that but not a lot! 24bits rule!

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What were you shooting for as far as levels on the console?

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After checking, when i'm peaking at about -10 on the console, it's more like -4 in cubase.

I'm really having some issues with recording levels and trying to get a clear idea in my mind where i should be at. I've recorded some of a song, and when i listen to it all back together, the master fader peaks at around -2. I don't think this is good, so i'm going to record again from scratch and try and keep everything down to about -18 (in cubase) when recording and see how things go. As i've said in ther posts, this means i have to turn my monitoring to a level which i would consider to be pretty high to hear playback at a decent level but i've been assured this is not an issue. I'll get there, i'm still learning. I was hoping Dave might have been on, he's usually pretty good at explaining things clearly or at least clear enough for [I]me[/I to understand anyway lol
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Hey Joe!
I am post #19 one behind you! Or am I the wrong Dave?

I am not sure but I don't think Cubase has a tone generator in it? Audacity certainly does and this means you can generate some 1kHz tones at precise levels then play them in Cubase and see where you be.

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Check the audio level control meter. When the audio peaks, it should only be lighting up the green lights or at most the first of the orange lights on the level meter (which is between 12db and 6db). If peak audio is lighting up several orange lights, the volume is too high and could be distorted. It definitely should not peak to 0db, which will cause the red OVER light to light up.
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An important aspect of the technical side of getting a good recording is to properly set the volume level of the recording input. This is the level at which your recording device is receiving your voice while you read. You need to adjust the recording sound level for the microphone, to make sure it's high enough to get a good recording, but not so high that the audio becomes distorted when it peaks.
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