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Old 13th May 2009 , 01:58 PM
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Default Recommendation on the follwing monitors for Electronic Productions

Hello,

I am looking at two pairs of monitor speakers (that are in my budget) and would like to know which one you would recommend the most for producing electronic music (Techno/Tech/Minimal). Stuff with a lot of bottom-end. I will also be recording vocals so the highs count also.

The two speakers in question are:

KRK VXT6
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Dynaudio BM5a

Was also looking at the adam a7's but feel these wont have enough bass frequency even though they are highly recommended by many.

Many many thanks

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Old 13th May 2009 , 02:03 PM
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Get the ADAMS,

firstly the idea of 1st pair monitors is that you want to be able to mix on them, if you get monitors where the low end is enhanced (sweetened) your mixs want be accurate and you could end up doing a mix and when you play it out it will not have enough low end as what you perceived ample enough on your monitors may prove lacking on other systems, your best bet is to get the flattest most true monitors your budget will allow and imo these would be

1.Adam
2.Dyn's
3.KRK

dont get me wrong you can learn your monitors after a while but you are just creating more work for yourself by doing so.
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dont get me wrong you can learn your monitors after a while but you are just creating more work for yourself by doing so.

Amen to that comment.

I also found that when you go to a better pair of monitors or a pair that arent sweetened you have to relearn everything all over again too. theres gonna be a fair amount of getting used to speakers no matter what they are but for example my old berrys had a fair bit of bass but now i have some adam a7s im finding it a right mission to judge bass in my mixes and its causing me all sorts of headaches.

Its all about reference at the end of the day so whatever you buy your gonna have to get used to but something like the adams is gonna be much better to start off with as theyre no nonsense un hyped speakers (i know someones gonna jump in here and say well all speakers are hyped in some way or tother but adams are a lot flatter than some). when you go up higher in the price banding your gonna find all speakers follow this trend so starting off with some hyped speakers a) as sureno pointed out may give you a weird perception of your mix and b) but you in a rough position when you change to something better
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Get the ADAMS,

firstly the idea of 1st pair monitors is that you want to be able to mix on them, if you get monitors where the low end is enhanced (sweetened) your mixs want be accurate and you could end up doing a mix and when you play it out it will not have enough low end as what you perceived ample enough on your monitors may prove lacking on other systems, your best bet is to get the flattest most true monitors your budget will allow and imo these would be

1.Adam
2.Dyn's
3.KRK

dont get me wrong you can learn your monitors after a while but you are just creating more work for yourself by doing so.
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aahh bloody hell guys. Just when I had eliminated one set of speakers from the equation you lot go and get me looking at them again!!!

I thought dynaudios are renowned for not being 'sweetened'.

Im I correct in any little way though in thinking that monitors such as the adam a7s will be harder to mix a track with a deep sub bass than the dynaudios or krks, as they cannot produce bass frequency that are as low?

I understand that its best to have a flat, honest, un-sweetened sound from your speakers (especially if its your first pair like myself), but worry that the adams wont have enough bass for me to work with.

apologies if my terminology is way off here.
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aahh bloody hell guys. Just when I had eliminated one set of speakers from the equation you lot go and get me looking at them again!!!

I thought dynaudios are renowned for not being 'sweetened'.

Im I correct in any little way though in thinking that monitors such as the adam a7s will be harder to mix a track with a deep sub bass than the dynaudios or krks, as they cannot produce bass frequency that are as low?

I understand that its best to have a flat, honest, un-sweetened sound from your speakers (especially if its your first pair like myself), but worry that the adams wont have enough bass for me to work with.

apologies if my terminology is way off here.
You'd be surprised tbh. i really was amazed at how clear they are when i first got them but a bit unsure with the loss of bass compared to my berrys (dont laugh ) but now im getting used to them i find i can get the bass to sound just as phat and big as i could before, i would say it even cuts through better too rather than being a hefty lump like when i mixed on my old monitors. its just getting used to them i think.
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Im I correct in any little way though in thinking that monitors such as the adam a7s will be harder to mix a track with a deep sub bass than the dynaudios or krks, as they cannot produce bass frequency that are as low?
yes it will be harder because the mix will be better if you get it right, you will still hear the low freq's just not as emphasised as the others.

you dont want to cheat your self which in essence you will be doing with less true monitors.

no one said it was going to be easy
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Ok so im once again seriuosly looking into the ADam A7's as there is no denying they get some of the best reviews for speakers in there price range.

As im still concerned with the possible lack of bass, I was wondering what your take is on subs? Something like the adam sub 8.

Iv heard very mixed opinions about the use of subs, some say they proove difficult to mix with and that they dont translate well on other sound systems. Others say they are perfect for speakers such as the adams a7 to compensate for the lack of bottom end.

many thanks for replies

.... also, iv just came back from travelling for the past 8 months and is it just me or has the priceof speakers gone up?
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As im still concerned with the possible lack of bass, I was wondering what your take is on subs?
The only thing I'd use a Sub for is in my home cinema set up.. but that's me personally.. There's more info and opinions in this sticky thread.. Think I want to add a sub to my setup
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The only thing I'd use a Sub for is in my home cinema set up.. but that's me personally.. There's more info and opinions in this sticky thread.. Think I want to add a sub to my setup
I concur with my learned friend (except I dont have a home cinema setup.. who has time to watch cinema??)
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I shall be the 3rd to concur. i had the sub for my berrys and yeah it sounds great for banging out some dnb when your pissed up and really want some bass. but for mixing in the back bedroom. not a good plan.
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I must admit, from my researching into subs the majority of people (who arnt first time buyers) think subs are a bad idea unless in a super treated room which mine is not.

No doubt ill pass on this extra installment.

Think my purchase will be for the adams...
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