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Old 6th August 2009 , 11:24 AM
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yeah the z4,z8s were brilliant too but still go for lots on ebay i was gonna get a z4 a few weeks ago from ebay but it ended up going for over 450 pounds !! that was way out of the ball park price i wanted to pay in fact id be surprised if it wasnt someone the guy selling it knew who was told to bump up the price ..there good but not worth 450 pounds now in my opinion the only really cool feature was the usb connection and added fx bank but it did the samething the s3000xl did and that can be got for 50 pounds now ..if no ones got one get one the filters and sound quality are still amazing now..

too give the tg33 some balls i useally record everything in to cubase dry then beef it up with the compressors and add a little distortion which works very very good on the bass sounds,and yeah the pads sound good too but a few of the presets need calming down a little with eq because a few sound very very phat and can conflict with basslines but if tamed a little they still sound very chicaney

another classic synth ive still got is the roland mdc1 this is basically the jv dance card in a rack so its full of classic rave stabs,vocal samples,loops and great 303,909,808 samples one hell of a synth and goes for aroound 80 pounds on ebay if you ever see one and your doing hip hop,techno,electro youll love this and is well worth the money .

and finally the beast among beasts is the all time great technox this is the dogs nuts !!! greats drums,greats basses,great pads,leads..etc in fact if you only bought this you could easily just use this to create a great sounding track..it can be a little confusing to use at first but once you get to grips with it it blows most vsts out of the water.theres been lots of synths out there that have tried to replicate the classic synths but the quasmidis are the only ones which come close i had a novation super bass station but in a mix it needed equing loads to get it too sound good and to cut threw a mix but the technox needs no equing each sound is mix ready and most are insperational which i think is very important its pointless buying a synth that doesnt give you a buzz of creativity or spark a idea but the technox does youll get a loop going in minutes.buy one !!! i paid about 110 pounds for mine on ebay.

heres the internal demo of the technox the sound qualitys not great ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjEOUs-7OAw
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I absolutely loved the Quasimidi stuff - never owned it, but drooled over it in many a music shop. I may try and get hold of a bit.

The Sirius was always a lovely looking piece of kit.

I used to own an MC-202, and I loved it so much. Why I ever sold it, I'll never know. It was mid 90s and didn't interface with anything, so I went for a Vintage Sound Module instead (an Akai SG-01v).

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Old 6th August 2009 , 01:41 PM
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Hmmm

Are these old Akai samplers a reasonable alternative to something like Kontakt? I like to be different see
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Are these old Akai samplers a reasonable alternative to something like Kontakt? I like to be different see
They are great and lovely bits of kit. If you look at any interviews in SOS or FM from early 90s onwards, every single musician had racks of these things, from the S950s, S1100s, S1000s, S3000, S3200, S5000, S6000 to the Z4 and Z8 (though the latter came late on after the advent of software samplers).

These things were upwards of 2 grand when they came out, and I used to dream of them. Memory is limited, apart from, for instance - on the Z4. I've got 512 mb of memory and a 40gb HD in it. THe screen is beautiful and, I don't know how to explain it, but anything you put in it just sounds beautiful. I suppose it's the dedicated hardware converters that do it. They're simply instruments.

I still fully intend to use them live - I convert Kontakt samples, and map my own stuff into programs because I just will not use a laptop live. I don't believe it's music. Call me sad, but there we go.

The EMU range of samplers were probably better, sound-wise. They had a range of filters that were just incredible.

Noteworthy mentions were the Yamaha A-series samplers. Especially to 4000 and 5000 -the FX on these things were incredible, and they had beat slicing tools as well. It seemed to matter more when it wasn't instantly available via software.

On top of that, there's nothing better than a load of flashing lights and massive LCD screens in a rack, so to speak

Another major thing that I remembered about these things is how economic you are with samples. You edit them better, take care to minimise sample rates, etc. etc. I just think that they promote more thought into what you're shoving into them.

Akai .sys with the Z4 is a program that allows you to use the computer to map them out. Brilliant.

If anyone has an old Z-series sampler or a spare knob for one, please let me know. Mine to a kicking live on one occasion.
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Old 6th August 2009 , 03:06 PM
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Yeah I remember the ever present Akai samplers of a decade and a half ago. I'm probably not TOO concerened about potential memory issues as my mainly electronic music won't rely too much on massive multisampled real stuff. I too am a sucker for flashing rack mounted techno porn (hence the thread!). I think an S6000 even at 300-400 is a bit of a bargain, especially the ones with decent hard drives built in. I've got an S3000 and S5000 on my Ebay watch list now
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Yeah I remember the ever present Akai samplers of a decade and a half ago. I'm probably not TOO concerened about potential memory issues as my mainly electronic music won't rely too much on massive multisampled real stuff. I too am a sucker for flashing rack mounted techno porn (hence the thread!). I think an S6000 even at 300-400 is a bit of a bargain, especially the ones with decent hard drives built in. I've got an S3000 and S5000 on my Ebay watch list now
Let me know how you get on! I haven't got the money for frivolous spending, alas, and the Z4 suits me well. I did a whole tour with lots of homemade Mellotron samples. Loved it so much.
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edit: I did a whole tour with lots of homemade Mellotron samples. Loved it so much.
Sounds fascinating.. love that Mellotron sound
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Let me know how you get on! I haven't got the money for frivolous spending, alas, and the Z4 suits me well. I did a whole tour with lots of homemade Mellotron samples. Loved it so much.
Will do. One of the S5000s i'm watching has a 40GB HDD, 136MB RAM and the USB board fitted as well as a few ZeroG sample libraries already installed. Even at a few hundred notes it's got to be a bit of a bargain!
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Sounds fascinating.. love that Mellotron sound
Indeed. M-Tron Pro is next on my shopping list without a doubt.
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Indeed. M-Tron Pro is next on my shopping list without a doubt.
Good call..
and also very much worth checking..
http://www.dv247.com/invt/51507/ &
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Good call..
and also very much worth checking..
http://www.dv247.com/invt/51507/ &
http://www.dv247.com/invt/40026/
I've got VSM, but haven't been able to install it on 64Bit Vista.

As for Sampletron - I don't know what it is, but the basic Mellotron sounds simply don't sound as good.

I can't put my finger on why or how, but GForce seemed to capture it a lot better.

If you're into classic sounds and samples that sound amazingly in yer face and useable, check out Fatso Synths Vol.1 at www.goldbaby.co.nz - I've bought everything they've done from the TR808 sounds onwards. Incredible value, and they sound superb.
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If you're into classic sounds and samples that sound amazingly in yer face and useable, check out Fatso Synths Vol.1 at www.goldbaby.co.nz - I've bought everything they've done from the TR808 sounds onwards. Incredible value, and they sound superb.
What can I say, great minds.. got Goldbaby's Tape Drum Machine collection, yep, superb
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Old 6th August 2009 , 05:22 PM
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if you cant afford the mtron stuff buy the emu vintage collection its got an excellent mellotron sound set on one of the dvds and itll load up into the free proteus vx available on the emu site ..i paid about 30 pounds for the vintage set it comes on 3 boxs full of samples of vintage synths such as the junos,oberheims,emus,mellotron,fairlghts..loads.
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MPC with a hard drive??? i know it isnt an S series sampler but they still sound good, better quality screens and you dont have to worry about getting the additional output cards + usb for dumping lots of files and of course JJ OS
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MPC with a hard drive??? i know it isnt an S series sampler but they still sound good, better quality screens and you dont have to worry about getting the additional output cards + usb for dumping lots of files and of course JJ OS
I've read a lot about JJ OS - is it worth getting? Is the difference really noticeable, and if it is - which version?

In addition, I'm a big New Order fan and love all those old Roland sounds they use - what's the best to look for or can anyone recommend a module/synth such as the JV1080/2080, XP series, etc. - what's the best and additionally, what's the best sound boards you can get for them? Anyone got any experiences?
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