MIDI controller

[ecc83]

Well I have the Tranzport.

Had about 2 hours with it. Setup went fine and I have managed to instruct Samplitude se8 to talk to it but so far not Cubase se3!!!!

It will waggle the input meters but not play, arm, select tracks or do anything useful at all.

In Sam 8 the jog/shuttle wheel is great and so too the mute/solo facility, I can see son being happy with those but they HAVE to work in Cubase f.c.s.

No doubt there is some lil' box I have not/shouldnot have ticked, Sam took me a while. Any thoughts doooo tell! I shall talk to Frontier but not before I have made sure of the simple stuff so I do not appear as a complete ***T!

Dave.

[sureno]

Originally Posted by ecc83

Well I have the Tranzport.

Had about 2 hours with it. Setup went fine and I have managed to instruct Samplitude se8 to talk to it but so far not Cubase se3!!!!

It will waggle the input meters but not play, arm, select tracks or do anything useful at all.

In Sam 8 the jog/shuttle wheel is great and so too the mute/solo facility, I can see son being happy with those but they HAVE to work in Cubase f.c.s.

No doubt there is some lil' box I have not/shouldnot have ticked, Sam took me a while. Any thoughts doooo tell! I shall talk to Frontier but not before I have made sure of the simple stuff so I do not appear as a complete ***T!

Dave.

well how's it unravelling there Dave? have you posted on frontier design groups forum, central scrutinzer is usually very quick and concise in his replies

[ecc83]

Good morning Sureno and thank you for your kind enquirery.

I am as MAD AS HELL!!!..............Cubase SE3 does not have Mackie Control and thus cannot use virtually any MIDI controller!

To add insult to injury IF I had spent my 88quid or so on a cheap interface I could have got LE tossed in and that DOES have Mackie control according to a Cubase verision compari-chart I found.

It seems I will have to spring at least another £55 for Cubase Essential4 to get my box working. My requests for details as to how the upgrade is implemented are yet to be replied to.

Dave.

[sureno]

Good morning to you too sir,

Dang, bummer! sx3 has it though right? so i take it because its a lite version it doesn't have Mackie, thats a complete sucker punch!

where have you asked about the upgrade? www.cubase.net? admin chris beauraman should be the person to ask?

[ecc83]

Hi Central Scruntinizer,

same prob with the CubaseSX plugin on WinXPpro SP2 here. I have Cubase SE3 and an old LE installation. The Tranzport 1.30 updater let me choose the right CubaseSE folder (it asks for a Cubase.exe file) but the SX Plugin doesn't. The SX plugin works brilliant with SE3 on my powerbook with 10.4.6. So can you please email me the raw version for XP too.

Not at all sure what that is about but is it a ray of hope? I will check the cubase link next.

And LE is "liter" than air compared to se3? Why should the latter have worse facilities?!!!

Arr tell thee, if 'twernt for son wanting to get to grips with Cubase I would tell Steinberg to swivel and go Sam10 or Reaper (bet THAT works, must try!).

Cheers Sur'

Dave.

[sureno]

well hope it works out for you, think if it's anything like the alphatrack you may have to manually place the file in the component, CS should get back to you he is usually good! And yes it's very odd that lite versions don't have mackie protocol

Not familiar with it on mac though? Used it when I had a PC and cubase
One of the many reasons I went logic but that's another story.
Good luck and as always keep us posted

[ecc83]

In typical Steinberg exceeding slow, byzantine fashion I am still waiting to be "activated" so I can ask questions (btw, does anyone else's dongle have a number on it? Mine don't!). If the dv247 forum can do it at a fair fraction of "c" why can't software supremos' like Stone bergers!

Not sure what you mean by "manually place the file in the component" Sureno but no doubt I'll find out in due course.

Oh! And just in case I have confused the issue I am running XP PRO, never laid hand nor eye on a mac.

Dave.

[sureno]

oh you just mentioned a PowerBook with 10.4.6.
Well if it takes too long let me know I still have an active acount. They will not let you post if you don't put in your USB number in. It's found usually on the chip in the dongle on a round sticker

[Monarch]

Originally Posted by ecc83

And LE is "liter" than air compared to se3? Why should the latter have worse facilities?!!!

This might help...

Steinberg Feature comparison chart.

Arr tell thee, if 'twernt for son wanting to get to grips with Cubase I would tell Steinberg to swivel and go Sam10 or Reaper (bet THAT works, must try!).

It is probably well worth trying Reaper out funnily enough. Cheaper than Sam 10.

[waxxy]

ecc if you want a free copy of cubase ai4 contact alesis and tell them you bought a product of theres and the disc was knackered theyll send you a free copy in the post ..i did it and got a copy within two weeks from america


also they dont ask for any proof of purchase so if you have got any alesis products dont worry youll still get one..i told them i had Alesis iO|2 and the disc was damaged so could i have another disc please they replied straight away with yes send us your address i sent my adress then got the dvd ..cubase ai4 is exactlly the same as cubase essential 4 (well 99 percent the same) and it has the same midi controller settings i use my houston,novation remote zero sl,akai mpd24,mackie satellite,korg ms20 all running at the sametime with it with no probs at all ..hope this helps mate

heres the address if anyone wants it..

ALESIS UK LTD
Unit 9 - The Christy Estate
Ivy Road
Aldershot GU124TX
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 1252 341 400
Support: +44 1252 353 850
Fax: +44 1252 353 810

[waxxy]

ive just been checking cubase le3 does have the same protocals as all the others so it should work ..i was thinking it was strange it didnt have it why take controller options out of a piece of software..heres the link..

it shows it working with a tascam product so it is in there ..

www.tascam.com/i-455-232-128-0-640CED9D.pdf

[waxxy]

and heres the update /drivers page maybe this can help you id try everything you can before buying extra software you may not need to buy..its weird you didnt get software with it already most products give you a daw of somekind either abelton or cubase..

http://www.frontierdesign.com/Produc...Port/Downloads

[ecc83]

Thank you Waxxy for the informatition re blagging an E4 disc.

Whilst I would have no scruples in going down that root were I totally potless, since I feel that I have payed good money out for software that is missing a pretty basic function and IT cannot be that costly to implement else why is it "given away", I wish to remain "whiter than white" in this matter mainly because I am pc T as S and can easily be misled.


In looking at the screenshots for installing in C sx I think I have found the glitch. In the Devices Setup panel in SX the Devices tree breaks off to Remote Devices and listed are..Generic Devices and Tranzport. In the same panel in Cubase se3. Generic is the only one listed. I can set tranzport as Default MIDI input and in fact I can set it so all over the shop but it makes no difference. Clearly SE3 does not have the wherewithall to interface with it.

I have re-installed the latest drivers, allowing XP to go off in search of them to no effect.

I am still mad as H and really think that this was cockup, a mistaken ommision on Steinbergs part, tho' they will never admit it. I suppose I shall have to stump up but in fact I think Steinberg owe me and all other SE3 buyers E4!!

After all, it is not just the Tranzport that won't work, it seems no kind of controller will interface with SE3.

Dave.

[sureno]

Dave i dont want to appear patronizing here but have you studied the set up HERE
has the tranzport been set to mackie by right clicking the little icon in your task bar

also check out how it MAY work in Native mode HERE

[sureno]

"Starting with version 3 (3.02 really) Steinberg added an SDK for external controllers to Cubase. Unfortunately the SE version didn't get this control added. This is a decision that Steinberg made, presumably to differentiate SE from their other versions, and nothing that we have any control over. "

not looking good

http://www.frontierdesign.com/Produc...rt/Apps/Cubase

"the main problem here is that Cubase SE specifically does not support external control. SX, SL, and LE all do. As you will see in all of our documentation, SX and SL 3 support Steinergs new native mode control protocol which our Cubase/Nuendo plug-ins are based on. LE supports Mackie Control emulation which we also added to the TranzPort driver. SE however supports none of these, which I suppose is Steinbergs way of getting you to upgrade???"