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Old 12th October 2009 , 12:19 PM
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Question need to get an acoustic guitar

alrightly, my mate's rightly sick of me borrowing his Simon & Patrick every three weeks for a week at a time so I need to look at a reasonable acoustic sooner rather than later... (which is f*cking nice, btw, everyone with some cash should compare these to the usual Martins and Taylors they always drool over, the better ones still aren't "cheap" but much less than the aforementioned "standards").

budget is VERY tight on this, though, so I need bang-for-the-buck.

the only real criteria I have is that it's gotta be playable, sound good (well, obviously those two) - it does not need to be an electroacoustic, I'll be mic'ing it to record (I'd rather pay more for a pickup LATER than make the known sacrifices now to have one) - and fundamentally that's what it will be, a studio tool as opposed to a busking/live thing. not loving the idea of a cutaway either, but that won't necessarily be a deal-breaker.

let's say 250 max right now (but preferably less). Usually when I'm looking at instruments in that sort of price range I reach for Yamaha first, they tend to punch well above their weight in the budget categories. but willing to hear pitches on other options - epiphone (the hummingbird sure looks pretty, is it actually any good)? how are those tanglewoods I see everywhere? something else? any high-value (cheap) boutique-y stuff out there worth considering or is that generally a huge oxymoron?

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Old 12th October 2009 , 04:13 PM
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I think this very recent blog post was made for you. Lol.

Take a look- MNJ Blog post 12/10/09
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Old 12th October 2009 , 04:22 PM
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I think this very recent blog post was made for you. Lol.

Take a look- MNJ Blog post 12/10/09
well... erm, not really! it doesn't identify any makes or models as being standouts in any given price bracket... the stuff about deciding a style and heading to a shop I pretty well know as I own seven electrics, two basses and a lapsteel. I would rather have read about the writer's own personal favourites, for example!

as far as point number one goes, I'm not married to a style - if there's a dreadnought that represents a better bang-for-buck than a folkie, then fine. I'll try a bunch, I'm sure, but what I want to know is where to start. are there certain brands/types that should be plain avoided in my price range? are there any woods that tend to represent a better buy than others at the low-end of things due to manufacturing concerns, etc?

points number 2 & 3 I have already sorted/laid out in my original post... point 4 I was hoping would happen after I got some feedback/advice as I like to be armed with a little knowledge when I go to waste some salespeople's time.
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[url]http://www.dv247.com/guitars/tanglewood-rosewood-reserve-trf-folk-acoustic-guitar-natural--62622[/url]

Hi there

I know this is slightly more than your budget, but the Rosewood Reserve Tanglewoods are excellent sounding guitars in that price range, well above the usual suspects. I'd avoid a jumbo or anything with a lot of bass end, you're only going to EQ it out on a rhythm part. For fingerpicked or solo parts, it's never going to give you the results a good Martin or one of the higher end jobs like Santa Cruz, Collings etc. would deliver but with a little studio magic I don't see why you couldn't make it work.

If this is still a stretch, have a look at these;

[url]http://www.dv247.com/guitars/epiphone-el-00-acoustic-guitar--57551[/url]
[url]http://www.dv247.com/guitars/ashton-om35s-acoustic-guitar-natural--39034[/url]

If you've got ny more questions, I'd be happy to help.
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I know this is slightly more than your budget, but the Rosewood Reserve Tanglewoods are excellent sounding guitars in that price range, well above the usual suspects. I'd avoid a jumbo or anything with a lot of bass end, you're only going to EQ it out on a rhythm part. For fingerpicked or solo parts, it's never going to give you the results a good Martin or one of the higher end jobs like Santa Cruz, Collings etc. would deliver but with a little studio magic I don't see why you couldn't make it work.

If this is still a stretch, have a look at these;

http://www.dv247.com/guitars/epiphon...-guitar--57551
http://www.dv247.com/guitars/ashton-...natural--39034

If you've got ny more questions, I'd be happy to help.
cheers mnj, that is indeed useful advice - especially the note about the jumbo - I think that's something I never considered so I will now look at smaller options.

the Tanglewood may not be impossible, but of course I'll probably have to pop up to Barnet to try it first. What's Tanglewood's story, anyway? It's not a brand I'm familiar with at all but see them around a lot...

how's the quality of the Epiphones these days? I've always wondered where else their acoustics compromise (other than country of manufacture) over the Gibson similar/equivalents... at 1/10th the price, are they still 85-90% as good?
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We have the Tanglewood in stock at Romford, if you're near Barnet they can have it transferred over.

Tanglewood have been around for about ten years or so, they make a comprehensive range of instruments in the sort of mid price range although they do have a MasterDesign series by Swedish luthier Michael Sanden.

[url]http://www.dv247.com/page/guitar-amp-events[/url]

Check out 11th November at Barnet, he's coming over.

You're spot on with the value/quality observation. This;

[url]http://www.dv247.com/guitars/gibson-j-200-standard-super-jumbo-electro-acoustic-guitar-vintage-sunburst--64411[/url]

is not ten times better than this;

[url]http://www.dv247.com/guitars/epiphone-ej-200-super-jumbo-acoustic-guitar-vintage-sunburst--37241[/url]

although it is 10 times the price.

Nothing wrong with Epiphones though, but I think the ones I've suggested would work better for your needs.
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What acoustic you going for "T Big Daddy 3"
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I missed this first time around. Tanglewoods do sound good for the money. Best bang for buck I have come across has to be Adam black though!
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I know buying a acoustic unseen/unplayed is taking a big risk, almost a definite no-no, but I took a punt on a Richwood RE-18-CE for around the 200 mark and it's superb.

Grand Auditorium body shape
Solid spruce top
Mahogany back & sides
Mahogany neck, ivory maple binding to both body and 20 fret rosewood fretrboard
Sound hole pufling made from layered walnut
Gold die cast tuners (supposedly grovers but unbranded)
Satin finish
Fishman Classic 4 peizo pickup with bass, middle, treble, brilliance and volume controls

The asking price was more but due to some confusion over stock levels, I got this model instead of the cheaper one I ordered, a big to the site involved for that.

Granted it took a full pro setup to get the best out of it, the action was a tad high, and as my luthier is dead against just sanding the saddle down as in his opinion that affects the peizo pup (never heard that before tbh) he routed the bridge and it now boasts a action that would shame a lot of electrics.

They boast these guitars are Taylor killers at a fraction of their prices, that's going a bit far tbh, but this guitar is by some distance the best I've played under the 500 mark. I won't name the site I got it from, but they are easy enough to find and are great to deal with (I bought another 500, uber superb LP clone from them) tho' I don't think they stock the RE-18-CE anymore, but there are alternatives well inside your price range.

On the other hand, buying a Yamaha, no matter what the price, is usually a guarantee of a top quality instrument.
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