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Old 16th August 2008 , 03:16 PM
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I see a new member has again posted two spam messages about mobile phones. It is good that moderators delete the spam quite qucikly and ban the members. Unfortunately the spam problem is likely to only get worse.

FYI, I am owner/moderator of a Yahoo group for singers and singing teachers. We currently have 3423 members. What I do is automatically set new members to be moderated. Once they post a message that is clearly on topic, honest and friendly etc, I then set that member to be non-moderated.
This policy has allowed me to delete spam without it getting through
to the group and ban the member who tried to post the spam. Spammers
are very very unlikely to spend the time reviewing such a policy and
are therefore very very unlikely to try to post an on-topic friendly
message before they post their spam.
Works very well for me and it means that the regular posters can post
without being moderated.
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Old 16th August 2008 , 03:17 PM
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Yeah just mailed NDK about it as i see there's no mods online atm
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Old 16th August 2008 , 03:18 PM
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Users can report spam directly here too, there's a small triangle icon on the top right of any given message. Click it to awaken the moderators in case they're off topping up their tea or something.
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Old 16th August 2008 , 03:21 PM
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Users can report spam directly here too, there's a small triangle icon on the top right of any given message. Click it to awaken the moderators in case they're off topping up their tea or something.
Very good point there, i need more tea
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Old 16th August 2008 , 06:02 PM
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Hi guys.. Thanks for the concerns re spam. NDK and I try to be as vigilant as possible regarding this problem. Between us, we pretty much have your forum watched over most of the working day, evenings, and as often as we can get to it at weekends.

Those idiots who post such tripe are 'life banned' immediately.

We're not too keen on moderating a newly joined member's inaugural post. We feel that instant gratification and usage to be important when 'diving in' (but thanks for the suggestion anyway 'Saxman'). Incidentally, any posts into the 'Trader' section are 'pre-publish' moderated.

Thank you all for your vigilance in reporting spam too, that is most appreciated..
Right, now where's the kettle...?
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There's probably not much point banning these accounts. Most spam-bots tend to work by following an automated script that require usually zero human interraction, and they don't bother returning. It's as easy for them to generate a new account as it is to login anyway.

The best practise for deterring auto spambots is by screwing with their script by adding extra mandatory fields to the registration page ("What's your main interest?" would probably be a good one, gets a bit of market research thrown in as well), and then the best way to prevent hit-and-run spammers is to deny new members the ability to post anything resembling a link until they've written five or so posts.

Still, quite a nice little badge of honour to be hit by spammers, isn't it?
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Old 16th August 2008 , 07:26 PM
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The best practise for deterring auto spambots is by screwing with their script by adding extra mandatory fields to the registration page ("What's your main interest?" would probably be a good one, gets a bit of market research thrown in as well), and then the best way to prevent hit-and-run spammers is to deny new members the ability to post anything resembling a link until they've written five or so posts.
Thanks RD. I'll chat with NDK asap on this..
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Old 6th September 2008 , 03:38 PM
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Thanks guys again for alerting us about today's 'attack of the spammers' (sounds like a 50's B-Movie!) The more popular this forum becomes, the more we seem to attract these instances. All of the suggestions above will be discussed on Monday with NDK and we'll get some form of initial 'safe' option activated - again, thanks for your vigilance and suggestions.. Right, back to the DIY (re-decorating studio as we speak...)
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Here's an interesting read about paid CAPTCHA solvers (which makes it a lot more difficult to beat these spambots)...

Inside India’s CAPTCHA solving economy | Zero Day | ZDNet.com
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Old 7th September 2008 , 07:41 PM
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You could invite some key people as guest moderators for particular forums and give them limited rights just so that you have more policemen (baggsy the recording and mixing/technique forum )
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out of curiousity what is this forums definition of SPAM, is it commercial adverts or comments in threads with no construction towards the title such as a conversation that has gone off topic?
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Old 7th September 2008 , 10:19 PM
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out of curiousity what is this forums definition of SPAM
The typical stuff we have seen so far is a new member posting messages within seconds of joining. They have posted messages about "buy cheap mobile phones", a stolen artical that had a link to "buy cheap meds", another recent one was someone posting half a dozen messages to half a dozen threads with a link to some or other dodgy site. That about sums it up.
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Old 7th September 2008 , 10:22 PM
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The typical stuff we have seen so far is a new member posting messages within seconds of joining. They have posted messages about "buy cheap mobile phones", a stolen artical that had a link to "buy cheap meds", another recent one was someone posting half a dozen messages to half a dozen threads with a link to some or other dodgy site. That about sums it up.
few was sweating for a moment there
well im sure all genuine members here will give mods a heads up if we see anything
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Old 10th September 2008 , 01:06 AM
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did we recently have another hit?
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Old 10th September 2008 , 05:34 AM
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Can't the offenders just be sent directly to the CERN Atom Smasher? Wouldn't that solve everything?
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