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Old 23rd June 2008 , 07:01 PM
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Hey guys
For a relative beginner, what would make up a set of absolutely essential FX pedals that can cover most styles of performance? Budget is a concern so the more affordable the better (but not compromising too much..)

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Old 25th June 2008 , 04:56 PM
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Bearing budget in mind, I reckon boss do a few nice stomps for the money. A basic setup should include some sort of boost/overdrive and a distortion pedal, perhaps a delay of some sort, a tuner, a compressor and maybe a reverb, depending on your amp.

Ideally - Ibanez TS9, Boss DS1, Boss DD7 or MXR Carbon Copy delay,MXR Dynacomp or Boss CS3, Boss RV5 reverb. Tuner has to be the Boss TU2.

You could play around with the effect chain, though I recommend: TU2>TS9>DS1>Dynacomp>DD7>RV5.
The TS9 reacts to the dynamics in your playing, and can act as a nice clean boost, so that's why I'd put it and the DS1 before the compressor. Delays and Reverb shouldn't be compressed. Hence they're at the end.

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Old 30th June 2008 , 03:25 PM
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Hey, cheers Caleb..
Reply really useful
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Old 2nd July 2008 , 07:04 PM
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Hi,
How about the (dont shoot me down folks) Zoom GFX 707 or later incarnation of it. Its cheap, v small and has an Expression/Volume pedal which can be quite fun. All editable which isnt a bad thing as some of the factory effects/sounds are a bit naff.

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Old 3rd July 2008 , 10:10 AM
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Couldn't live without my MXR Phase 90, Boss TR2 Tremelo, Ibanez TS808, MXR Distortion +. Heard great things about Black Star pedals so you may wanna check them out.

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Old 4th July 2008 , 11:27 AM
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Alot of it depends on your amp and guitar, i use a orange and i get that on the edge of crunch so if i play softly its clean and if i hit hard it brakes up a bit. then i have a Proco Rat2 and a little big muff for different gain levels. I have a Boss eq pedal after my gain pedals to shape the mid range a bit. I have a home made loop switcher with true bypass so i can switch between different drives and modulation effects with out tap dancing.

Modulation
I have the phase 90 and a EH small stone and a boss PH3, if i had to have one it would be a nano small stone. I just love the sound on both settings and its built like a tank.

I have a Boss tremelo pedal, but ive got to admit i never use it.

delay
Ive had lots of delay pedals, but now i use the line 6 Dl 4 delay modeller, ive had it side by side with my deluxe memory man and its close enough for me. plus its go tap temp and 3 assignable presets.

Reverb
The holy grail is the best ive heard get the plus if you can it takes standard 9v dc, not the silly jack plug power supplie.

Drive
If you want fuzz i cant recomend the little big muff enough its classic muff sound with a smaller better casing and again the standard 9v input. plus it seams to have less hum.

For OD ive not found one i really love yet, the rats quite nice but the filter effects the sound a bit to much for my liking. On recordings i tend to use the amps gain.

hope some of that made sence

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Hey Stratman, Ricksey and Pete C. many thanks to you guys too.. Now then, how low do I have to bow in front of my bank manager....?
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Old 4th July 2008 , 01:42 PM
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quite low mate, delay/reverb pedals are the most expensive. just get the best you can. its better to have a few high quality pedals than lots of low quality ones. oh and only get what you need because your signal get worse the more you have in a chain.

I forgot a really important one too, a compressor! As a sound engineer at a little live venue i really love when people know how to use compressors with guitar. Its amazing the difference they can make. my favs are the MXR dyna comp or the EH nano soul preacher. It evens out the signal from your guitar and can improve sustain.

Ive mentioned Electro harmonix alot but DV dont sell them, but MXR have a good solid range and are the same quality in my opinion.

when i used to work in my local music shop i was known as "Pedal" because of my quite silly collection of fx pedals. ive cut back alot now.
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I've owned/played around with loads of pedals. The bottom line is you'll get sucked into bottomless pit of trying to buy every pedal around. However for low-cost, convenience, quality and ease of live use you could a lot worse than try a Boss ME50...probably set you back about 100 on eBay. Even new at around 150 it's damn good value.
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Old 4th July 2008 , 02:04 PM
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My idea of a bare bones high quality indie rock fx chain, once you have something like this you can start buying fun stuff like whammy pedals etc

MXR Dyna comp MXR M102 at DV247.COM
Proco rat Pro Co Sound Rat 2 at DV247.COM
Boss EQ Boss GE7 Equalizer at DV247.COM
MXR phaser MXR M101 at DV247.COM
akai delay Akai E2 Headrush at DV247.COM

Total 360 + P&P

if you buy one at a time over a few months its not that bad, Id buy the drive and comp first, then eq, then modulation and delay.
remember to buy some good patch leads too.

of course alot of people would say bare bones is amp and guitar but wheres the fun in that?
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Old 17th July 2008 , 01:25 AM
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My personal feeling on effects is that they are overrated. I listen to a lot of grunge music and whilst one of my idols J. Mascis out of Dinosaur Jr uses LOADS of effects, others barely use them at all, Kurt Cobain for instance, it is widely believed, only used a distortion pedal and a chorus pedal (both not very expensive Boss pedals).
Search on the web for the type of gear the people you listen to use. You'll be surprised when you read stuff about peoples gear, some bands that you'd think use loads of effects, use hardly any. Some bands that you think use hardly any, use loads.
If your are on a budget and are dying to mess about with effects why not consider a multieffects pedal first, see what you use most and buy good stompboxes after? Multieffects pedals tend to be cheaper than buying a whole whack of stomp boxes but stomp boxes let you have more control over your effects but stompboxes are usually better quality.
If it were me, I'd buy a distortion pedal and forget about everything else for a while, play every day and as loud as you can. I've been playing for ten years, I now only use one (a distortion pedal). I found I got completely sidetracked with mucking around with pedals and found I was fiddling with a knob more than I was playing guitar. Those who like fiddling with their knobs go right ahead, I'm going to play guitar.
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Old 23rd July 2008 , 05:47 PM
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kurt cobain used a mesa boogie for his drive sound, he used a electro harmonix chorus and quite a few differnent drive pedals over the years. it depends what you playing. with grunge its mainly just because you have 3 sounds clean, drive and solo (loads of modulation phazer or flanger/chorus). if your radiohead on the other hand they use a mind blowing amount of pedals and rack gear.
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Old 23rd July 2008 , 09:17 PM
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Hi,
How about the (dont shoot me down folks) Zoom GFX 707 or later incarnation of it. Its cheap, v small and has an Expression/Volume pedal which can be quite fun. All editable which isnt a bad thing as some of the factory effects/sounds are a bit naff.
thats true i had one of them for ages, it had some cool little features... i made pretty much a whole bank of edited sounds which i thought sounded ok... replaced it with a Line6 Spider 2 combo amp that has all the basic effects you can ask for!

The FBV Shortboard combined with that amp is pretty immense in terms of the various effects you can make on it... little bit costly but does save on complex pedal boards!
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Old 23rd July 2008 , 09:25 PM
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I've owned/played around with loads of pedals. The bottom line is you'll get sucked into bottomless pit of trying to buy every pedal around. However for low-cost, convenience, quality and ease of live use you could a lot worse than try a Boss ME50...probably set you back about 100 on eBay. Even new at around 150 it's damn good value.
I'm going to secomd that one, with the ME-50 you have a really good variety of Boss effects, even if you find that you only use a few of them and swap it at a later date for the stomp boxes you need it's a great stepping stone. My local shop has an effects pedal wall to plug in and try with dozens of Boss effects, I wanted a delay, a chorus and a Blues Driver, they would have set me back 150. I got the ME-50 for the same price and felt like I'd taken home the entire wall
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Old 23rd July 2008 , 09:38 PM
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I had a friend in the 80's who used loads of pedals, he was a bit of an electronics genius and he made a lot of them himself. He always put a noise gate at the end of the chain. The difference between having the gate in and out was astonishing if he was running quite a few effects. It's just a thought.
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