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Old 16th March 2010 , 01:00 PM
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Question Utterly Idiotic Newbie Drums Question

When creating drum beats that are complex or fast (like a lot of electronica/industrial music) using a virtual instrument/program like Massive, how are fast fills done?

Take this video for example at 1.09

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvKRw89K7JQ

There is now way that is tapped out manually on pads in real time.

So, how is it done? Slowly and then sped up? If so, sped up by what? (by massive or Pro Tools?)

I know this is a silly question once you know the answer but I am totally new to virtual drums/massive etc... and need to work on it ASAP!
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Old 16th April 2010 , 11:17 AM
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I told you it was idiotic

I suppose the answer lies in working out midi tracks in my Pro Tools?
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Old 16th April 2010 , 11:28 AM
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One way to do it is to just change the tempo of your session to as slow as you need, make the fill, then speed it back up again... the MIDI timing should follow...
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Old 16th April 2010 , 04:49 PM
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You'll find that on demos they are using bought midi files. Makes it a lot easier.

In actual fact, most of the time they are not playing it faster, they are just playing more notes in the space.

Let's imagine you have a step sequencer (or your piano roll view) set out in a usual mode of 4 steps and 4 beats per measure on your DAW = 16 notes. If you put the kick on the first of each one then you get a normal 4 beat. The snare would be on the first of step 2 and step four. Play it at 120 and it just sounds like a normal beat.
Now fill in the gaps on the snare. Sounds like a machine gun or whatever you want depending how many notes you put in. You can also fill in the kick so it sounds like it's double time but it's the same measure with more notes in it giving the impression of pace.
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