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Old 15th March 2010 , 05:38 PM
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Default Just Bought Yamaha DTXplorer

Should be here on Wedneasday. Just wondering if any of you guys have it or have used it?
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Old 18th March 2010 , 10:17 PM
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Well it came yesterday and since then, spent most of my spare time thumping away on it. Really pretty happy with it, takes a little getting used to though i have to say. I have a question though, when recording with this thing, what should the led metres ideally be peaking at when i hit the snare?

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Old 21st March 2010 , 06:53 PM
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I've got a yamaha DTxpress II. Got it 2nd hand about 5 years ago. And recently both the kick drum pad and the hi-hit (which is jsut a tom pad in the hats position) have started to break. But thats probably to be expected because I smack the hell out of them playing punk and metal.

Your question about VU. It depends. Is the snare going into its own track? If so then it should average around -18dbfs, which means that the peaks should probably be around -10dbfs, to be sure it doesnt clip, but you could get it up to -6dbfs.

If you're recording the drums onto two tracks (not seperate tracking each drum pad) then I'd suggest playing the kit and making sure that the VU meter doesn't go above -10dbfs, because the level will increase when you, for example, hit the kick and crash together.
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I've got a yamaha DTxpress II. Got it 2nd hand about 5 years ago. And recently both the kick drum pad and the hi-hit (which is jsut a tom pad in the hats position) have started to break. But thats probably to be expected because I smack the hell out of them playing punk and metal.

Your question about VU. It depends. Is the snare going into its own track? If so then it should average around -18dbfs, which means that the peaks should probably be around -10dbfs, to be sure it doesnt clip, but you could get it up to -6dbfs.

If you're recording the drums onto two tracks (not seperate tracking each drum pad) then I'd suggest playing the kit and making sure that the VU meter doesn't go above -10dbfs, because the level will increase when you, for example, hit the kick and crash together.
I'm just recording the entire kit onto 2 stereo tracks. I can't assign single drums to a single track, or can i? If there is a way, i would like to know how because that would be better but i can't see how that can be done with the DTXplorer. There is only a Left and Right output on the trigger module.
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Not unless your brain has seperate outputs for each drum.

Of course, you could use it to generate MIDI data and use that to trigger a drum program like BFD or Drumagog (if it supports midi triggering).
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Not unless your brain has seperate outputs for each drum.

Of course, you could use it to generate MIDI data and use that to trigger a drum program like BFD or Drumagog (if it supports midi triggering).
The brain has seperate inputs for each drum, but it only has L&R outputs for all of them together. It's not really been a problem so far mind you. Yeah, the midi output is a bonus, that's something i may use in the future when i get my computer set up together. I have someone at DV doing a couple of quotes for me on that. Pricey business, but i think it will be well worth it!
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Just to follow this thread up for anyone thinking about buying the DTXplorer, i think i should give my opinion having used it for a bit. Overall it's a decent little kit but there are a couple of things you should consider before buying it. If you want it for gigging, forget it. The cymbals don't sound anywhere near good enough and i sometimes have a problem of other drums being triggered if you hit the snare too hard etc. If you want to use it for recording, think seriously about buying some decent drum software and using the DTXplorer to trigger that as opposed to recording straight from the DTXplorers module (which i initially intended to do!). It didn't work well. I have found that using it along side software is easily it's best use, for my situation anyway. The good thing is, if i'm recording and at any point another pad is triggered from hitting the snare a little too hard (which will happen by the way) i can easily edit it out later. I would recommend the DTXplorer as a great practice kit that doesn't take up too much space and sounds pretty good, but for recording, definitely go down the route of software and using the DTXplorer through MIDI (assuming of course you're like me and an acoustic kit isn't practical). And for gigging, go for something more expensive. I've heard Roland kits are really good too. Hope this helps anyone thinking of buying it!
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Have you adjusted the sensitivity of each drum? I cant remember exactly what its called, but there is a function to turn down how easily a drum is triggered. The exact purpose of which is to stop drums being triggered by vibration. Give that a try, it should help.
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Have you adjusted the sensitivity of each drum? I cant remember exactly what its called, but there is a function to turn down how easily a drum is triggered. The exact purpose of which is to stop drums being triggered by vibration. Give that a try, it should help.
I had no idea i could do that, i'll have a look into that later with the manual. Thanks Twiggy!
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No worries man. If you find what its actually called, post it here so other people having ther same problem know what terms to look for in the manual
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Ok, got it figured and it worked a treat. Problem solved! What you want to do is, hold in shift and press the drumkit/trigger button. This will take you into a menu. Press the arrow keys to the right until you come to the "Gain" Levels. These control the pad sensitivity. On mine they were set to around 60. They can go from 0-99. What worked for me was reducing the gain on all the toms to 30, also reduced the crash to 30. This completely eliminated the problem i had of other drums being triggered by vibration from me hitting the snare. Obviously these settings might not be suited to everyone's kit, but these are the levels you need to adjust to sort the problem. The lower the gain, the less sensitive the pad will be.

P.S. Thanks again for the heads up Twiggy, i would have never have thought of checking that. I also found another few settings that i could tweak, and did tweak, from looking that up! Problem completely solved!
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Glad you got it sorted dude!

What else did you tweak?
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I changed the velocity curve (which is accessed by the same way as the last thing) which was set at "normal". This setting is probably best for most people but i felt that especially when using the DTXplorer along with BFD, i was having to beat the pads pretty hard just to get a decent thwack sound from the software and in turn because of this sometimes my drumming was a little inconsistent because if i happened to not hit as hard as i had been from the start, i ended up with a couple of little patches where the snare or whatever was quieter than the rest of the song. To make things easier, changing the vel-curve to Loud meant that i didn't have to batter the pads so hard to get a decent volume from the pads. You might think it should be a simple as adjusting the volume, but it's not. It's a similar setting to the Gain but it works differently. It really made a difference. I was having trouble in this area before, especially with the snare being a bit inconsistent but it seems a lot better now. There are a whole load of other settings you can tweak to your preference but i can't remember them all. I hadn't noticed before, that's what i get for not reading the manual properly!
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I don't know why E-Drum manufacturers don't make the response curve editing more prominent in the menus... the first thing most people will want to do is to tweak a new instrument so that it better responds to your own personal playing style.
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I don't know why E-Drum manufacturers don't make the response curve editing more prominent in the menus... the first thing most people will want to do is to tweak a new instrument so that it better responds to your own personal playing style.
I hadn't come across it atall in the menu's, but it's probably my own fault for not reading the manual in depth. Thankfully i don't have to go editing my drums in Cubase anymore to take out the little blips. I'm so glad i bought drum software though, i very rarely use the DTX's built in sounds now unless i'm just messing around, the symbols are especially inferior to the BFD software. It's still a great little kit for the price though and is great for what i need it for. So i can't complain.
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