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Old 11th March 2010 , 09:40 PM
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I still use the Cubase drum editor. Actually, with that budget, he could probably get a copy of a decent general synth from EW or NI which also come with a few nice kits, plus he'll probably get another product free and about 150 change.

The drum track is something I usually do first, even if it is a simple beat to start writing a song with, it can always be edited to suit the song as it develops. Just further to what Dave said, if you're not too farmilliar with plugins, you'll need to go into Devices>>VST Instruments and load the drum software into one of the banks, then it becomes available as an output on your midi tracks.
Once you program a beat or load a preset onto a midi track, simply set the output to the VST instrument you have just loaded.
Ok, so i download the trial. It will then say it's finished. I then open cubase and go into VST and it should be there?
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Ok, i downloaded again but all i have is a dll file??
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Cubase has plenty of decent drumkits in Halion, and also a drum grid in the sequencer.

Gotta be the easiest way to start.
How do you get into that?
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What did you download? Anyway, if you drop that .dll file into your VST folder, you should find it in your cubase instruments when you load Cubase..
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I don't have a VST instruments folder. I only have VST Connections and VST performance.
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Go to C:/Program Files/Steinberg/Vstplugins or it might be C:/Program Files/Steinberg/Cubase/Vstplugins
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Go to C:/Program Files/Steinberg/Vstplugins or it might be C:/Program Files/Steinberg/Cubase/Vstplugins
Ok, i went to that folder and nothing was there. I dropped that dll file in there. What next? I've tried the 2 VST options i have on cubase and there is nothing there about drums.
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The dll file says its a cakewalk midi plug on wrapper. I downloaded it from one of the links someone sent earlier in the thread.
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I've opened halionone or whatever its called but i can't control it. it wont let me adjust the little knob things. It just keeps saying "halionone cannot load rock drumkit" and so on for every other instrument.
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Ok, i'm fed up with these trials. I've decided to bite the bullet and try this http://www.dv247.com/drums-and-percu...nd-bomb--69852 According to what it says on there, my laptop should be ok to run it on. My laptop has 160G HD, 1GB of ram and runs windows XP. So would i be right in saying that sould be alright? Also, what's people's experience with this particular one? Will it run alright alongside cubase? How is it for ease of use? And what sort of quality will i be getting?

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http://www.dv247.com/drums-and-percu...C-bfd-2--46529
Or perhaps this is all i need

Also, if i was to download direct from their website, how would that work if i changed computers eventually and wanted the drum software transferred to the new PC?

i'll probably buy the DVD mind you.
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Ok, i'm fed up with these trials. I've decided to bite the bullet and try this http://www.dv247.com/drums-and-percu...nd-bomb--69852 According to what it says on there, my laptop should be ok to run it on. My laptop has 160G HD, 1GB of ram and runs windows XP. So would i be right in saying that sould be alright? Also, what's people's experience with this particular one? Will it run alright alongside cubase? How is it for ease of use? And what sort of quality will i be getting?

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http://www.dv247.com/drums-and-percu...C-bfd-2--46529
Or perhaps this is all i need

Also, if i was to download direct from their website, how would that work if i changed computers eventually and wanted the drum software transferred to the new PC?

i'll probably buy the DVD mind you.
It'll work fine in Cubase, I use it with SX2.
This product is 6 DVDs so to download will take ages, so I'd buy the hard copy. I think your laptop is gonna struggle with it though to be honest, you're definitely going to need more RAM. That said, you can load the kits in 'light' mode which will load less samples per drum and therefore be a bit lighter on resources.

I doubt you'll need the BOMB expansion unless you're going to be doing tracks with marching band drums. If you want more kits, I'd recommend any of these https://www.platinumsamples.com/index.php but the stock kits that come with BFD2 are excellent. As for the quality, its as good as it gets, but like anything, if you want to get the best from it, you'll be spending a lot of time reading & typing
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I'd agree with the bloke in that your laptop may struggle with that BFD software. The 1GB RAM alone will cause you grief.

Before you do anything else I'd suggest you print out your Cubase manual and read it from front to back. You might find you have everything you need already installed.

Save your money for a PC upgrade, it'll serve you much better than buying load of software you're not sure if you want or not.
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BFD2 is great, I have it myself, but you're going to have quite a steep learning curve given your current level of experience with DAWs. I would suggest that EZDrummer (don't let the name fool you) would be quicker to get to grips with and there's currently a great deal on where you get an expansion pack for free:

http://www.dv247.com/computer-music-...egadeal--47672

I also started my drums VSTi (means: VST instrument) collection with EZDrummer and I still use it now alongside the other drum VSTi's though I do tend to maybe use Superior2 more often... luckily, the EZX expansion packs are compatible with Superior2.

EZDrummer is a good starting point and a quicker learning curve. From there, if you like how it works, you can move up to Superior2 for more control and options and any EZX packs you buy in the meantime will still be compatible meaning no wasted money. There's a good video demo from a songwriter's perspective on Toontrack's website:

http://www.toontrack.com/tv.asp?chan...DESC&item=40#2


Of course, this is purely my opinion, YMMV.
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Piano, what processor do you have in your laptop?
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Piano, what processor do you have in your laptop?
I'm not sure, it's a samsung NC10. So it's just a small laptop. It was really bought just for home use, internet banking etc.

I'm kind of lost now, i don't know what is best to do. People have said cubase should have drums but i can't seem to load them atall otherwise i would try using them for now. I have tried to download a couple of trials with no luck either. If i could get a half decent drums software that would work ok on my laptop and wouldn't be too difficult to get to grips with like you advised above, i would buy that for now.

Another reason i have decided on software instead of my original plan to buy a yamaha DTXplorer is, i think i'm right in saying that if i was recording with the DTXplorer it wouldn't be possible for me to assign different drums to seperate tracks and i reckon that could be a problem. Unless i'm wrong ofcourse. Really though, i think it would be best to go for the software.
This is more difficult than i thought!
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