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Old 30th July 2008 , 05:11 PM
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Default Who are the new superstar DJ's?

Oakenfold, Cox, Morales, Tong, Sasha, Knuckles, Sanchez etc etc..
All original DJ's from back in the day, all still playing and engrossed in music (soz Waxxy, no criticism meant earlier)..

But who are today's 'new breed' superstar DJ's (or at least potentially?) Does such a term apply today?

Are there just too many new DJ's struggling for profile for them to achieve the status enjoyed through the acid house period onwards?

Names on a post(card) please....
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Old 30th July 2008 , 05:35 PM
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Was there not a thread on the exact same thing here earlier??

thought I replied in it
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Old 30th July 2008 , 07:14 PM
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yeah i thought samething ..what happened?
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Old 30th July 2008 , 07:24 PM
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its ok kedo i wasnt having a pop at you personally mate..its just that on some forums you get young people being ageist and critisize people who should get respect for the good work theyve done for the dance community..

i speak to young djs and some are very cocky and think they know everything and think they can do anything just because they can load 10 mp3s into tracktor and let the software beat match everything for them.and then they stat forcing there beliefs and there views down your throat .

what they forget is the fact that one day they will be the same age as pete tong and they willpray to have had an amazing carrer as his..i say good on too all the older djs and hope theyll stiull be spinning the discs when there 70 .

in a way i can understand that young ones cant feel a connection too older djs because they dont understand what theyve done too allow them too still spin tunes after 20--30 years but all i ask is check what the guys actually done for the damce music movement and i promise youll see and hear him in a different light .

and if i ever see you in a club mate ill buy you a drink too show no hard feelings ..

heres pete tongs bio..if you read it youll see hes worked damn hard too get were he is..big up da tonggy !!

Pete Tong - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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i speak to young djs and some are very cocky and think they know everything and think they can do anything
you and me both mate lol
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The comment about Traktor and new Dj's made me laugh, because it's so true. I'm 23 now and took up Dj-ing when I was 13. The most advanced thing then was the pioneer CDJ500, and even then they weren't popular because the majority of credible dance music was still coming out on vinyl rather then cd.
Now every man dog, sheep and his sampler full of 90's dance classics can stick something out through beatport every 5 minutes.. I'd still rather go record shopping and pay 6 quid for something I like, then stay at home and surf through the thousands of mostly un-interesting mp3's for 3..

I don't think we'll get to a point of Superstar Dj's again. The people you mentioned were at the top of the game when the field wasn't so big and filled with people running software to Dj for them.. There are now too many people doing too little work to protect the reputation of Dj's as entertainers.

Plus, people are far too quick to 'file' artists and dj's into a genre now. The 'superstars' got their reps because people didn't really care too much about musical boxes. They knew if they turned up...they'd probably have a good night !

I'm lucky enough to have played with Morales, Rampling, Tong, Dave Lee, Whitehead, Cj Mac. I think the other reason why they have survived so long is because they have a good head on them. They don't really get caught up in anything. They seem to take in new music without being made obsolete themselves. Newer Dj's don't have that freedom/ability. They seem to have to conform to a niche/sub genre like indie/dance/mashup or electro-house blah blah..

I think the other killer for Dj's is the 'rent-a-crowd' promoters. They book people based on how many of your friends will come, rather then how good you are at dj-ing. It makes it harder for people with talent to break through, because chances are they won't get as many opportunities to build the rep..
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I think the other killer for Dj's is the 'rent-a-crowd' promoters. They book people based on how many of your friends will come, rather then how good you are at dj-ing. It makes it harder for people with talent to break through, because chances are they won't get as many opportunities to build the rep..
I hear you mate! I recently lost a 2 year residency because the manager (pressured by the owner) wanted "local" dj's in who could bring masses of friends week in, week out. Life is certainly a bitch!

The place by the way, now has NO DJ! I had it every week there from the "let me have a go" crowd. Most of those wanted to use MY records! I'd say to them, bring your own tunes and I'll give you an hour, they would proclaim how much they wanted to do it and I'd never see them again. I put that down to the Traktor factor.
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like anything that gets commercialised you get a lot of fools,crooks and wannabe middlemen. You've gotta do something else to stand out. Either run your own night, run your own label, produce or do something else that can be useful to promoters.

Rent a crowd....It's a promoters trick that came over from the band scene. Groups on the way up were booked on how many fans/groupies/local pals they could get to come down and create a vibe and .

I've been royally screwed before. I built up the backroom of a club on a Sunday night. At first it was empty, within 2 months there were ques to get in and out all night. It was a gay venue, I knew no-one and people only came because they liked what they heard. I left because they screwed me. The one night they made 18k just on door sales. I covered the 'resident' dj at last notice....and they still never paid me a penny. To top it all I was assaulted by the doorstaff and manager after I told him why I was angry. 18k, and they didn't even give me a beer or a tenner for the taxi home... karma though. He got jumped for his car keys the week after and had his bmw m3 stolen..

More recently, I signed up to a local label doing some remix work for them. Despite this, when I got in touch with the guy in their office that deals with Dj booking for the club nights, he still wanted to know how many people I'd bring with me. So err yh...I'm on your books for making music, I've sent you a faultless mix cd...but you still want me to try to bring my mates to a night that they aren't really fond of..

That reminds me. Another thing people are doing to curry favour with promoters is illegal file sharing. I reported one A&R guy to some other labels because he was dishing out cdr's full of his employers and their tracks to djs and promters to get bookings. I've also been fwd'd an email from the head of a massive venue and events company that had links to hundreds of illegal upfront and rare songs... it really it a shitty way to make yourself look good..
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I think the other killer for Dj's is the 'rent-a-crowd' promoters. They book people based on how many of your friends will come, rather then how good you are at dj-ing. It makes it harder for people with talent to break through, because chances are they won't get as many opportunities to build the rep..
N.Ireland is terrible for that.......really bad. A lot of venues I used to love are now booking dj's on their bus bringing talent, and their crowd couldnt tell you the difference between a good mix or a trainwreck

Bugs me to spend my hard earned money to see substandard dj's
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The thing about sun-standard dj's has been going on forever. Mainly with big producers who then turn to DJ-ing after a track crosses over. THe best example I can think of is Matt Darey. After 'Beautiful' he was offered a load of gigs. The reports I heard were that he did them, but he took a laptop running a sequeuencer of pre-matched tracks. So basically he turned up and pressed play on Cubase or Logic etc..same thing for his mix cds.. if you believe what people tell you. I've heard he's a lot better at being a dj now.

Trophy Twins were as bad. They would pre mix 4 tracks per cd and work like that. Lazy way of dj-ing.. I'm not sure what they do these days..

I'm looking at more foreign bigs now. There are a lot of emerging countries with club scenes to match. They treat you better, and obviously don't expect your mates to fly over. They seem to value/respect british dj's...soemtiems the pay isn't great. But you do have a good time with crowds that are eager...
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Hopefully i will b big 2 yrs im ricke frm n.ireland
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Pretty much anyone from Ed Banger Records. I've watched vids of SebastiAn and Justice performing live, and they really know how to work the crowd.
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Pretty much anyone from Ed Banger Records. I've watched vids of SebastiAn and Justice performing live, and they really know how to work the crowd.
+1 yes i do like there style, they have good interaction skills
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