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Old 20th September 2008 , 06:13 PM
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any one use this, im thinking of getting it

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Old 20th September 2008 , 06:56 PM
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Nah...she's not my type and my mrs wouldn't allow it!!!
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Old 20th September 2008 , 06:58 PM
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That pizza-like board is a bit big to carry around in your wallet too!!
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Old 20th September 2008 , 07:00 PM
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use your ear instead, much cheaper

seriously tho, I dont use mixed in key myself but I know a lot of people over on the ableton boards use the software and it gets great reviews
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Old 20th September 2008 , 07:02 PM
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Well I'm not a DJ but even if I was, the video wouldn't convince me.
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Old 20th September 2008 , 07:08 PM
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At the end of the day a good dj knows what tunes work together and what dont, but I can see benefits to this software.

Another thing that just occured to me tho, its fine knowing the key of a track its standard pitch setting, but what happens when you adjust the pitch to beatmatch? surely the whole concept goes out the window then... no?
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I use cdj's (actually doing a warm up set now) with the MT switch on so it's not really effected too bad, was thinking you could use it to cause deliberate but subtle key changes to give a certain atmosphere as long as you know your intervals and scales etc
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I use cdj's (actually doing a warm up set now) with the MT switch on so it's not really effected too bad, was thinking you could use it to cause deliberate but subtle key changes to give a certain atmosphere as long as you know your intervals and scales etc
Oh yea totally forgot about MT

the whole point of the key chart (the big pizza like board sphelen lol) is to tell you which keys will work together, so even if you dont know how the keys correspond to each other (not you in this case sureno) you can still mix harmonically

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if you think of the chart as a clock, you can mix from one key into the next either clockwise or anti clockwise, and between inner and outer circles as long as they are in the same hour, for example 1b will mix with 1b, 2b, 12b and 1a
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A good DJ would be able to hear a musical key clash in his cans - and if the record harmonically offended, it'd be straight back in the box.. (wallet or playlist, CD and MP3 stylee respectively)

That reminds me, one of the best DJ's to push the envelope with regards to 'musical' mixing is Anthony Pappa. I remember he had every, and I mean every, record bpm'd and 'keyed' (C minor, F Sharp etc..). Being a musician too, his sets would have an almost symphonic feel to them.. Top guy!

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looks like the circle of fiths, so using that chart how would you know what track falls where other than using mixed in key, I think for the dj with a large library this could proove awesome and extremely efficient, would you agree?
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Oh yea totally forgot about MT

the whole point of the key chart (the big pizza like board sphelen lol) is to tell you which keys will work together, so even if you dont know how the keys correspond to each other (not you in this case sureno) you can still mix harmonically

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if you think of the chart as a clock, you can mix from one key into the next either clockwise or anti clockwise, and between inner and outer circles as long as they are in the same hour, for example 1b will mix with 1b, 2b, 12b and 1a

It looks to me like a wannabe circle of fifths but as I have no idea how to read it all I can tell is that it tells you the relative minor of the major scales. Is that what it's supposed to do? Does that mean you can play an A minor after a C major one?

What do the colours mean?
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looks like the circle of fiths, so using that chart how would you know what track falls where other than using mixed in key, I think for the dj with a large library this could proove awesome and extremely efficient, would you agree?
Sorry...great minds think alike!
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A good DJ would be able to hear a musical key clash in his cans - and if the record harmonically offended, it'd be straight back in the box.. (wallet or playlist, CD and MP3 stylee respectively)

That reminds me, one of the best DJ's to push the envelope with regards to 'musical' mixing is Anthony Pappa. I remember he had every, and I mean every, record bpm'd and 'keyed' (C minor, F Sharp etc..). Being a musician too, his sets would have an almost symphonic feel to them.. Top guy!

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that's what I'm talking about, yes key clashes can be very apparent but like you said you can more often than not catch it in the can, now for keeping it organized this must have extreme potential, hense me asking about it
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Does that mean you can play an A minor after a C major one?
yes or F/G major

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Colour means nothing? So why bother? Is it florescent/uv to see in the dark while you're doing your set and you can't remember the circle of fifths?
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