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Old 14th July 2010 , 11:41 AM
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Been having an annoying little problem with my metronome recently and i can't seem to fix it. What happens is, i will set the metronome to the tempo i want. I have a couple of bars count in then i begin recording but as soon as i start recording, the metronome starts to cut in and out. I lose sound for a couple of seconds, then it comes back, then goes away and back and so on. It does this for about a minute before finally working as normal. Can anyone explain why i might be getting this loss of sound from it? It's like it's cutting on and off and it is as soon as i start playing. It's a real pain in the ass. Another thing i've been getting (pretty rare) but still annoying is a complete loss of sound from everything. I will be in the middle of tracking when suddenly i lose sound from everything for about 5-10 seconds, the it will all come back. By that time what i've been recording is all arsed up though and i have to re-record it. Anyone else get this? I'm guessing it's just one of those things that happens from time to time but is there anything that i perhaps have on my PC that's causing these problems? I don't use it for the internet unless it's to download an update etc and i don't have any silly things like Yahoo messenger or anything like that. It's just music software. I have also used up very little HD space. I maybe expected a few little hitches like this when the HD got a little full but not now. My virus scan software does interfere a little sometimes but i just disable it when recording and usually it's ok, could that be the problem? I only have it there for when i go online to download updates. Could it be that i don't have a great amount of ram? I'm pretty sure that the stock synergy i bought only has 2GB RAM. I am ofcourse intending to upgrade things like that in the near future but i expected it to be ok for now, could that be the problem? With that amount of RAM could the PC be struggling to run Cubase aswell as programmes like BFD Eco at the same time?

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Old 14th July 2010 , 12:50 PM
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check your cables..the problems your talking about have happened to me and it was my cables that were faulty..if your ever having prolems with your metronome check its channel in the mixer to see its playing if you see the levels are good but not getting any sound then its a prolem with either your cables or soundcard so then check your meters on your soundcard if it has any if there registering and still no joy then its a fault with how sound is getting to your mixer.
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Old 14th July 2010 , 01:03 PM
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I don't know Cubase but as stated, check where the sound is going to as the metronome in some DAWs are defaulted to a certain location, which you can change, and it may be that output that's at fault.
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check your cables..the problems your talking about have happened to me and it was my cables that were faulty..if your ever having prolems with your metronome check its channel in the mixer to see its playing if you see the levels are good but not getting any sound then its a prolem with either your cables or soundcard so then check your meters on your soundcard if it has any if there registering and still no joy then its a fault with how sound is getting to your mixer.
Hmm, the only cable i can think to check would be the firewire cable which connects my N12 to the PC. It's strange how it only clicks on and off for the first 45 seconds or so of a project then it starts to operate normally. Surely if it was a cable problem, it would be doing this randomly and not just at the start of a project? It's just started happening very recently. I will check the firewire cable though and make sure everything is secure.

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In order to try and eliminate certain possiblities... if you increase the latency value in the ASIO COntrol Panel, does the metronome still behave erratcially or does that make it more stable?
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In order to try and eliminate certain possiblities... if you increase the latency value in the ASIO COntrol Panel, does the metronome still behave erratcially or does that make it more stable?
I'll give that a try Dave and see what happens.
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Haven't figured out how to increase the latency

It's really weird this is. I tried the cables and everything seems fine. The problem only persists for the first 30 seconds of a song, then it starts to work normally. It's just cutting in and out for those first 30 seconds or so.
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Are you using the inbuilt "bleep" style metronome, or are you triggering a sound via MIDI for the metronome... if so, maybe your song is triggering the same sound via MIDI during the first 30 seconds of your song?

To change latency, in the menu goto Devices > Device Setup.Then in the dialog, click on the driver name under the VST Audio System entry. This screen will show you what your input and output latency times are in ms. Click on the Control Panel button to open a dialog window where you can change the latency setting. This screen will look different for each brand of soundcard as this menu is part of the actual ASIO driver for you soundcard.
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Are you using the inbuilt "bleep" style metronome, or are you triggering a sound via MIDI for the metronome... if so, maybe your song is triggering the same sound via MIDI during the first 30 seconds of your song?

To change latency, in the menu goto Devices > Device Setup.Then in the dialog, click on the driver name under the VST Audio System entry. This screen will show you what your input and output latency times are in ms. Click on the Control Panel button to open a dialog window where you can change the latency setting. This screen will look different for each brand of soundcard as this menu is part of the actual ASIO driver for you soundcard.
I'm using the inbuilt metronome Dave. I've had a look at the actualy metronome settings but everything seems fine in there. I'll have a look at the latancy, thanks for the instructions.
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ahh, i've figured out why the metronome was clicking out but i don't know if it is normal. I had the metronome click routed to both the aux bus and the stereo bus at the same time so it could be heard in the control room and in the aux bus headphones simultaneously (i think it must have been that way by default). When i route it to either the stereo bus of the aux bus on their own, the metronome goes back to being fine again. Is this normal? Can anyone explain why this would happen when it's routed to both busses? I'm quite happy just having it routed to the control room headphones anyway as they're the ones i usually just use. I suppose if you were recording in a band situation anyway, only the aux bus would have to have the click routed to it for the musicians and the control room stereo bus wouldn't need it.
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