Export audio mixdown produces a turd

Bloke From Barnet · #1 (**permalink**) 8th October 2009 , 10:14 PM

Well, that's the best way I can describe it in one line. I used to mix thru my desk, insert my TLA 5021 with just a little compression onto a CDR and the result was great, for a home studio anyway.
Now I have my lovely new UAD card, I've dispensed with my outboard DSPs and my CDR machine.

The song sounds great when I play it thru Cubase, but after exporting audio mixdown, even keeping it in 24 bit, it sounds really flat. It's lost highs & lows and it's lost all of it's 'air'. Not muffled as such, but those lovely rooms on the BFD drums for example, now sound like an underground car park. I'm not using any processing on the master channel, I was going to do that afterwards, this is just the raw mix.

I saw on a few other boards some others experienced this, but I never really found a definitive answer. I'm going to try tomorrow playing the track thru the desk, and recording it into soundforge to see if that makes a difference.

Anyone else get this?

TrevCircleStudios · #2 (**permalink**) 8th October 2009 , 10:39 PM

itb v otb...? It's entirely possible to get good results but you just gotta work harder if you are itb.

sureno · #3 (**permalink**) 8th October 2009 , 10:48 PM

check your bounce settings that you haven't got any "normalize" on or other algo type setting??? just throwing it out there really?

Bloke From Barnet · #4 (**permalink**) 8th October 2009 , 10:58 PM

I have to admit, I'm a recent itb convert. A little late, but the UAD and being able to save the mix finally brought me into 2009. I guess its more reading & learning..

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Originally Posted by sureno

check your bounce settings that you haven't got any "normalize" on or other algo type setting??? just throwing it out there really?

Hmm, haven't checked. Will have a look, thanks!

Bloke From Barnet · #5 (**permalink**) 10th October 2009 , 06:09 PM

Everything was flat, no normalize or anything. I played the track thru and recorded channels 1&2 into soundforge. Viola.. dynamics & definition. Quite by accident, I've now found a method that I like best, I can even insert my TLA like I used to and mix down to 24 bit instead of onto a CDR.

sureno · #6 (**permalink**) 10th October 2009 , 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bloke From Barnet

Everything was flat, no normalize or anything. I played the track thru and recorded channels 1&2 into soundforge. Viola.. dynamics & definition. Quite by accident, I've now found a method that I like best, I can even insert my TLA like I used to and mix down to 24 bit instead of onto a CDR.

glad you found a work around but still an odd problem

Bloke From Barnet · #7 (**permalink**) 11th October 2009 , 01:04 PM

Yes it is, the difference is noticable though. Anyway, this way works, so I'm happy again.

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#1 (permalink) 8th October 2009 , 10:14 PM
Bloke From Barnet Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 113	Export audio mixdown produces a turd Well, that's the best way I can describe it in one line. I used to mix thru my desk, insert my TLA 5021 with just a little compression onto a CDR and the result was great, for a home studio anyway. Now I have my lovely new UAD card, I've dispensed with my outboard DSPs and my CDR machine. The song sounds great when I play it thru Cubase, but after exporting audio mixdown, even keeping it in 24 bit, it sounds really flat. It's lost highs & lows and it's lost all of it's 'air'. Not muffled as such, but those lovely rooms on the BFD drums for example, now sound like an underground car park. I'm not using any processing on the master channel, I was going to do that afterwards, this is just the raw mix. I saw on a few other boards some others experienced this, but I never really found a definitive answer. I'm going to try tomorrow playing the track thru the desk, and recording it into soundforge to see if that makes a difference. Anyone else get this?
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#5 (permalink) 10th October 2009 , 06:09 PM
Bloke From Barnet Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 113	Everything was flat, no normalize or anything. I played the track thru and recorded channels 1&2 into soundforge. Viola.. dynamics & definition. Quite by accident, I've now found a method that I like best, I can even insert my TLA like I used to and mix down to 24 bit instead of onto a CDR.
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Bloke From Barnet Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 113	Yes it is, the difference is noticable though. Anyway, this way works, so I'm happy again.
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