Intel get their pocket money taken off them !

[EdRyan]

Seeing as though this is the forum for hardware, I thought this is appropriate.

Intel have just been handed a mouth watering fine of £954,000,000

Which when you consider how long they have been abusing and flouting the rules to try and cut AMD out....still isnt a lot of money. They are reported to earn 22 billion a year. Over 5 years, if that figure is constant...they have made 110 billion pounds.

Fining them just under 1 billion then, is merely tickling the belly with the cattle prod. I doubt we will see AMD do any better because of this. It just doesn't seem to go far enough imo.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20090513...e-fe50bdd.html

[Tifstorey]

I'd like to know where the £954,000,000 will go..

[sureno]

Originally Posted by Tifstorey

I'd like to know where the £954,000,000 will go..

a sexy party

[Wilty]

Originally Posted by Tifstorey

I'd like to know where the £954,000,000 will go..

Me too.

And AMD probably won't do any better out of this at all, and it probably won't even change much. Like Ed said its a drop in the ocean to Intel and they'll just open up a new load of shady practices and backdoor deals, same as every other manufacturer of every other product still operating today. I even think AMD, for all the lawsuits and whatnot, would be doing the same thing and pushing for monopoly if it was the other way round and them with the advantage in the market to start with.
I believe, though may be wrong, Microsoft take and pay fines and fees but carry on regardless knowing that the profit they're making well outweighs any financial punishment that can possibly be bestowed.

Thats a lot of money though, I don't think I can imagine that much.

[Tifstorey]

Originally Posted by sureno

a sexy party

That would be one awesome party!

[EdRyan]

The EU courts are starting to lose patience with Microsoft. However, when so many businesses and consumers rely on Windows...it would do more harm then good to everyone else by trying to get over drastic with Microsoft.

Cases currently stacked against them:

The EU are demanding Microsoft release source code for areas of the operating system, to allow rival software and hardware to integrate as effectively as Microsoft's own products.

A demand to unbundle Internet Explorer from the OS. The case originally started with Opera claiming IE harms the internet because it doesn't conform to standards. 3rd party involvement now comes from Google, Mozilla, IBM, Adobe & Oracle Systems.

Claims that Vista home basic is not an upgrade from XP.

Microsfot & Intel are decidedly evillllll

[terminal3]

These sorts of fines are usually reduced very heavily on appeal... would be surprised if that number sticks.

[Wilty]

Originally Posted by EdRyan

Cases currently stacked against them:

The EU are demanding Microsoft release source code for areas of the operating system, to allow rival software and hardware to integrate as effectively as Microsoft's own products.

A demand to unbundle Internet Explorer from the OS. The case originally started with Opera claiming IE harms the internet because it doesn't conform to standards. 3rd party involvement now comes from Google, Mozilla, IBM, Adobe & Oracle Systems.

Claims that Vista home basic is not an upgrade from XP.

Microsfot & Intel are decidedly evillllll

Why? Its their code.
Why? Its their OS.
And yeah, can't argue with that.

All this business politics always baffles me. They have a 'good' product. That works. That millions of people use. It does seem that a lot of it is just pissy backbiting. Gotta love it.

[Bloke From Barnet]

I never understood why Mac never released their OS as a stand alone product for PCs. Now more than ever they would be better off to do that as their machines are using more & more standard PC components. Not that I'm a big fan of Apple as a company, but straight head on competition with MS Windows would be good for everyone surely? Well, except Mr Gates

[terminal3]

Originally Posted by Bloke From Barnet

I never understood why Mac never released their OS as a stand alone product for PCs.

Because Apple makes most of their money from hardware sales.

[Wilty]

Couldn't someone cry to the EU about that? I want Logic.

[chrisdrew1985]

It's possible to get OSX on a PC , you just gotta know how though im saying nothing more on that one lol

But an official PC release of OSX would be sweet, since purchasing my macbook, i havent had any issues with OSX which im amazed at, from being a long term windows user.

It's a shame nothing much will sufface for AMD from this fine

[Tifstorey]

Originally Posted by chrisdrew1985

It's possible to get OSX on a PC , you just gotta know how though im saying nothing more on that one lol

This is true, however - it's still a PC.. just in disguise. From what i remember, it's a bit of a job doing it too, would be a hell of a lot easier just investing in a Mac Mini.

[JAYDMF]

Intel apparently only have £5 billion in the bank tho so its quite a hefty blow, and id say not a moment too soon especially when you read some of the evidence about giving companies such as dell, compaq etc back handers to a) use AMD in only 20% of the product range and b) hold back these products for upto a year after the rival intel product is released. tis a bloody joke if you ask me. I just hope AMD land on their feet with their new offspring company fab 26 (or whatever its now named)

[tyronehowe]

I know it couldn't have happened, but it's interesting to speculate how the world of computing might have turned out if Microsoft had only sold their OS with bundled hardware.

I'm sure that one of the reasons why OSX is so stable is because Apple know exactly what hardware is being used.

It does become frustrating though when you can only buy hardware from one vendor. You are at the whim of what Apple decide to include (or not) in their hardware, for example removing firewire from non-pro machines.